From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762359AbXGEVp2 (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:45:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759822AbXGEVpQ (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:45:16 -0400 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183]:36789 "EHLO smtp.gentoo.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757185AbXGEVpN (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:45:13 -0400 From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: Nix Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1 Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:47:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: 7eggert@gmx.de, Karel Zak , List util-linux-ng , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org References: <8CYT9-4Ou-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <200707051730.25776.vapier@gentoo.org> <878x9ucz6v.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix> In-Reply-To: <878x9ucz6v.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2678447.DAAHxRo6ao"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200707051747.09611.vapier@gentoo.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --nextPart2678447.DAAHxRo6ao Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 05 July 2007, Nix wrote: > On 5 Jul 2007, Mike Frysinger outgrape: > > On Thursday 05 July 2007, Bodo Eggert wrote: > >> The Makefiles generated by autotools is a huge mess, if autotools got = it > >> wrong (again!), fixing them requires editing a lot of files. > > > > this looks like a no brainer to me: dont edit generated files > > There is a worthwhile point here: if your input to the makefile > generator is buggy and make errors out, you'll have to look at the > generated code in order to relate the make error to the original. granted, this can be a pain (ive spent an annoying amount of time tracking= =20 down unbalanced quotes/parens/etc... by trying to correlate configure.ac wi= th=20 configure), but i dont feel like this is a autotool-specific issue as it ca= n=20 come up with other auto-build-generators as well. heck, a minor typo in a= =20 hand written makefile can sometimes be a time sink and hard to trace back=20 (just look at linux kernel makefiles). =2Dmike --nextPart2678447.DAAHxRo6ao Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUARo1m3UFjO5/oN/WBAQLNFhAA1ZSZL894j5MWX3w4y3dnXqjITNhS52uV uLku1LV4JGCe1nNyAPlfT/Z11s2AXP9Pz83ky8o4JuuK+5u0ZtCEohr0HJIF+Ksc ixdTC1/L4liKwv4+nR/yOohy3AxhcaJe/Q8RMaLw3UhyTQpjsxvBVk1sR2SeM52Q GkGeMLoCQCaUmJHMhc0hltn0wg7ju+UruOErnkCo7fZSBvERc5EOsYPrrA45fwmu HEGKS1tkPGiFRBzjhP1vsHOp+kKRQBUBlJ7rDSoobGaHXFCs5l8z/1R3vEWH68b3 6aHU4bIDbHK/XsKHCPx7NValuW848V5yQnjWPDi542laLb/GhhPc9O8lN2iGqUMS aoV1HZPbV/SiGgfiZNP574+wxudm/AznnrVe5RwzPMa2NPVRxaCl74hgi1jC8gvu DA9LyBwrfRfSW6pdxy4CJW6V3+2c0tPWT7gZeIF+PxmXyU0k1p4hg1ptR2BFXdqe SGP0kAUICASGzygLlOuFrKnTx9cfnfHsZ/fjDzEIS8xr1FwqtG8Qftc3zZc8qvxB Sg3JW436OcK0qYFpkZhEWptt1eEdj+GVZqtthWkNeQBtLGw8WLhuBq9I3anQ8lSX tg+yai0M4A6Ah0N28gZmFCx/c2QXt6PBqdGUbTpcR1qdBG6cqfJHW9Q98WgBTtFt AWHB5vjfYFo= =AzFW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2678447.DAAHxRo6ao--