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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com>
To: "Ken'ichi Ohmichi" <oomichi@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp>
Cc: Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>, Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Determine version of kernel that produced vmcore
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:02:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070710120243.GA10121@hmsendeavour.rdu.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070710121315oomichi@mail.jp.nec.com>

On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 12:13:15PM +0900, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:58:04 +0300, Dan Aloni <da-x@monatomic.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 03:28:14PM +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > does anybody know a _reliable_ way to determine the version the kernel
> > > that produced a vmcore file? This means not scanning for a specific
> > > string or something like that which can fail on random memory.
> > > 
> > > Would it make sense to add a ELF PT_NOTE section in the vmcore?
> > > 
> > > Thanks for input!
> 
> (CONFIGFILE means makedumpfile's config file.)
> 
> makedumpfile checks kernel version by reading system_utsname.release
> from /proc/vmcore, as you know. If the release and OSRELEASE in CONFIGFILE
> don't match, makedumpfile fails.
> 
> Besides Dan's plan, I'm planning the change of CONFIGFILE for distributors.
> In the kernel building process, distributors need to make CONFIGFILE
> on an older kernel (ex. RHEL5 kernel is built on RHEL4), and OSRELEASE
> may be an older kernel. So OSRELEASE should be modified to the building
> kernel version by hand, but it is not smart.
> 
> To solve this problem, I'm proposing 2 plans.
> Could you give me your opinion ?
> 
> Plan 1:
>   A new option [--osrelease="string"] is added.
>   The OSRELEASE of CONFIGFILE is overwritten by "string".
>   In the kernel building process, distributors should specify "string"
>   as the building kernel version.
> 
> Plan2:
>   Remove the OSRELEASE from CONFIGFILE.
>   Instead of checking the OSRELEASE, makedumpfile only checks whether the
>   area of /proc/vmcore specified by the symbol "system_utsname" in CONFIGFILE
>   is the string "2.6.". If CONFIGFILE and /proc/vmcore don't match, the
>   "system_utsname" must not point to the correct area in most cases.
>   Old makedumpfile needs OSRELEASE, and it cannot work by new CONFIGFILE.
>   But I think there are not any problems because old makedumpfile will not
>   read new CONFIGFILE. Now, CONFIGFILE is used only by RHEL5's kdump initramfs,
>   the CONFIGFILE is generated during 1st-kernel running. Even if CONFIGFILE
>   will be updated, makedumpfile can read the CONFIGFILE because makedumpfile
>   should be updated with CONFIGFILE.
> 
> 
> I'd like to change the name of CONFIGFILE to mkdfinfo.
> 
Why not, instead of either plan above, just redefine OSRELEASE to be the version
of the kernel the config file was built against?  i.e. when you build a config
file, you need to specify a kernel to extract symbol information from, why not
grab the utsname from that kernel and use that to set OSRELEASE?  When you're
building a config file the running kernel on the system isn't really relevent
anyway.

Thanks & Regards
Neil

> 
> Thanks
> Ken'ichi Ohmichi

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-10 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-06 13:28 Bernhard Walle
2007-07-06 14:58 ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-09  9:21   ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-09 11:41     ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-09 20:49       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-10  4:45         ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-10 13:20           ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-10 15:00       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-10 17:17         ` Neil Horman
2007-07-10 17:35           ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-10 18:26             ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-10 19:00             ` Neil Horman
2007-07-10 20:36               ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-11 11:57                 ` Neil Horman
2007-07-10  6:48   ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-10  8:14     ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-10 12:12       ` Neil Horman
2007-07-10 13:05         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-10 12:09     ` Neil Horman
2007-07-10 16:52       ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-11  6:07         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-11  7:32           ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-11 13:43             ` Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2007-07-13  3:58               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-13  7:49                 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-13  3:43             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-11  8:58           ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-10  3:13 ` Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2007-07-10 12:02   ` Neil Horman [this message]
2007-07-13 11:05     ` Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2007-07-13 13:15       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-16  4:19         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-16 11:57           ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-16 12:25             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-16 12:27               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-16 12:28               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-16 12:36                 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-18 14:07                   ` Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2007-07-18 23:10                     ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-24  6:49                       ` Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2007-07-19 14:12                     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-19 16:39                     ` Don Zickus
2007-07-19 16:49                       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-19 16:59                         ` Don Zickus
2007-07-23  5:01                       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-23 11:47                         ` Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2007-07-23 13:02                           ` Dan Aloni
2007-07-23 15:58                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-24  6:40                             ` Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2007-07-17  3:50             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-17  8:17               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-10 12:52   ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-10  6:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-10 12:59   ` Bernhard Walle

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