From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1764332AbXGRNtl (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:49:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755848AbXGRNtb (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:49:31 -0400 Received: from mx2.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.151.9]:53488 "EHLO mx2.mail.elte.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754289AbXGRNta (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:49:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:48:11 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Roman Zippel Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Linus Torvalds , James Bruce , Thomas Gleixner , Mike Galbraith , Andrea Arcangeli , Andi Kleen , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arjan van de Ven , Chris Wright Subject: Re: [PATCH] CFS: Fix missing digit off in wmult table Message-ID: <20070718134811.GA9227@elte.hu> References: <469B0D9E.3030402@andrew.cmu.edu> <20070716070610.GA10907@elte.hu> <20070716112037.GA6895@elte.hu> <1184754430.20032.130.camel@twins> <1184763148.20032.135.camel@twins> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamScore: -1.0 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-1.0 required=5.9 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.0.3 -1.0 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Roman Zippel wrote: > > By breaking the UNIX model of nice levels. Not an option in my book. > > Breaking user expectations of nice levels is? _changing_ it is an option within reason, and we've done it a couple of times already in the past, and even within CFS (as Peter correctly observed) we've been through a couple of iterations already. And as i mentioned it before, the outer edge of nice levels (+19, by far the most commonly used nice level) was inconsistent to begin with: 3%, 5%, 9% of nice-0, depending on HZ. So changing that to a consistent (and user-requested) 1.5% is a much smaller change than you seem to make it out to be. CFS itself is a far larger "change of expectations" than this tweak to nice levels. So by your standard we could never change the scheduler. (which your ultimate argument might be after all =B-) Ingo