From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>,
Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Subject: Re: Hibernation considerations
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:25:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070721102520.GE1902@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707171302430.2467@asgard.lang.hm>
Hi!
> from my point of view the ACPI S4 sleep mode has far more in common with
> suspend-to-ram then with the suspend-to-disk that I'm talking about
>
> non-ACPI hibernate
>
> since the box powers off
> it uses zero power while suspended
> another OS could be run before a resume
> hardware can be swapped, suspend image could be sent around the world
> to be restored on another system.
> restore makes no assumptions about the state of the hardware when it is
> restored
> restore is slower (full BIOS boot is required)
> should be able to work on just about any hardware (the limit is the
> ability to initialize the devices)
So it will be break at least battery status and "AC plugged in"
status, because those are handled by ACPI and we do not know how to
control them by hand.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-21 10:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 220+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-15 12:33 Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 12:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 12:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-07-15 22:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 22:27 ` david
2007-07-17 17:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-07-17 17:49 ` david
2007-07-29 6:53 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-07-29 9:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-05 19:56 ` encrypted hibernation (was Re: Hibernation considerations) Pavel Machek
2007-08-11 23:43 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-08-12 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-18 19:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-08-21 7:29 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-13 2:30 ` Michael Chang
2007-08-13 4:53 ` alon.barlev
2007-07-15 15:10 ` Hibernation considerations Al Boldi
2007-07-15 15:35 ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-07-15 17:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-15 16:29 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 17:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-15 23:28 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 23:58 ` david
2007-07-16 5:02 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-16 6:49 ` david
2007-07-16 13:32 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-17 4:33 ` david
2007-07-17 12:08 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-17 14:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 15:23 ` david
2007-07-16 14:53 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-16 16:51 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-17 4:37 ` david
2007-07-15 19:52 ` david
2007-07-15 20:13 ` david
2007-07-15 22:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 22:42 ` david
2007-07-15 23:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 23:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-16 14:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-16 15:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:41 ` david
2007-07-16 14:21 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-17 4:45 ` david
2007-07-17 14:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-17 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 15:29 ` david
2007-07-17 16:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 17:06 ` david
2007-07-17 19:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:18 ` david
2007-07-17 20:39 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:39 ` david
2007-07-17 20:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:53 ` david
2007-07-17 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:42 ` david
2007-07-17 21:53 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-21 10:25 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-07-21 15:35 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-21 17:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-21 19:35 ` david
2007-07-21 19:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-21 22:14 ` david
2007-08-01 16:58 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-07-17 20:24 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:44 ` david
2007-07-17 21:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 16:09 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 19:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 18:32 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-17 20:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:34 ` david
2007-07-17 20:54 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:04 ` david
2007-07-17 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:17 ` david
2007-07-17 21:27 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:27 ` david
2007-07-17 21:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:34 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:37 ` david
2007-07-17 20:56 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:06 ` david
2007-07-17 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:27 ` david
2007-07-17 21:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <ea7a437ca4038d408ac544bbc3c2434a@bga.com>
2007-07-19 17:31 ` [linux-pm] " david
2007-07-20 14:24 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 15:44 ` david
2007-07-19 20:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-19 23:07 ` david
2007-07-20 11:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 15:35 ` david
2007-07-20 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 21:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 16:56 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 17:31 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 21:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 19:26 ` david
2007-07-20 21:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 21:33 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 22:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <20070720152744.GH20529@grifter.jdc.home>
2007-07-20 15:36 ` david
2007-07-20 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 21:39 ` david
2007-07-20 22:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 22:39 ` david
2007-07-20 16:08 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 16:20 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 17:32 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 18:17 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 19:08 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 19:37 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 20:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-20 20:12 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 21:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-20 22:25 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-23 14:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-23 20:05 ` Towards eliminating the freezer Alan Stern
2007-07-24 8:21 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-24 14:27 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 9:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 14:29 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 15:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 16:06 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 20:24 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 22:14 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-25 12:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-01 9:34 ` [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations Pavel Machek
2007-08-03 3:50 ` david
2007-07-20 20:31 ` david
2007-07-20 21:24 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 21:34 ` david
2007-07-20 22:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 21:37 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 22:35 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 22:43 ` david
2007-07-21 5:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-21 14:10 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-22 3:43 ` david
2007-07-22 16:00 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-22 21:50 ` david
2007-07-23 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-23 19:01 ` david
2007-07-23 20:22 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 13:26 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-24 14:50 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 22:48 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 21:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-21 11:44 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-21 12:43 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-21 13:56 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-21 16:13 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-21 18:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-21 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-01 9:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-02 17:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-21 22:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-21 22:16 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-22 15:26 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-22 16:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-22 20:09 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-22 21:54 ` david
2007-07-22 22:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-22 23:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-22 23:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-23 0:04 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-23 3:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-23 15:23 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-23 21:55 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-23 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-23 5:31 ` david
2007-07-23 10:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-23 12:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-23 12:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-23 12:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-23 12:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-23 13:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-23 14:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-23 14:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-23 19:08 ` david
2007-08-01 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <40fa2626aff7b6b590ad6aa4737fc873@bga.com>
2007-07-20 14:48 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-20 15:48 ` david
2007-07-22 2:17 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-22 2:32 ` david
2007-07-20 21:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 22:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-17 22:37 ` david
2007-07-18 14:29 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-18 14:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 4:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-20 10:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-21 10:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-15 23:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:49 ` david
2007-07-16 12:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <20070716123849.GC14212@grifter.jdc.home>
2007-07-16 15:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 4:28 ` david
2007-07-17 10:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-17 15:19 ` david
2007-07-18 2:18 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-18 3:54 ` david
2007-07-18 11:10 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-18 12:56 ` david
2007-07-15 23:17 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 23:53 ` david
2007-07-16 5:18 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-15 20:35 ` Cornelius Riemenschneider
2007-07-15 19:46 ` david
2007-07-16 0:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16 0:51 ` david
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