From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
To: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] lguest: documentation pt I: Preparation
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:06:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070723200617.87507f16.rdunlap@xenotime.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070723192113.0eaa0ad8.rdunlap@xenotime.net>
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:21:13 -0700 Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:12:38 -0700 Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:17:58 +1000
> > Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > The netfilter code had very good documentation: the Netfilter Hacking
> > > HOWTO. Noone ever read it.
> > >
> > > So this time I'm trying something different, using a bit of
> > > Knuthiness. Start with drivers/lguest/README.
> >
> > um.
> >
> > I'm OK with merging patches and given lguest's newness, the timestamp on
> > these patches, the fact that they don't change code generation (right?) and
> > my reluctance to carry large do-nothing patches for two months, I'd be OK
> > with squeaking them into 2.6.23.
> >
> > But I worry that you're proposing adding what appears to be new
> > Documentation-related machinery and infrastructure when there's already
> > increased activity in that area from other people and we might all be
> > headed in different directions and stuff.
> >
> > So first I think we'd best form a kernel kommittee and mull this for a
> > while (preferably months) to screw you around as much as poss, OK? ;)
> >
> > Items for consideration would be:
> >
> > - if this stuff is good, shouldn't other code be using it? If so, is
> > this new infrastructure in the correct place?
>
> I wouldn't mind having a new doc infrastructure, but I don't see this as it.
>
> > - if, otoh, this infrastructure is _not_ suitable for other code, well,
> > what was wrong with it?
>
> I think that we don't want to give up html/pdf/ps output formats in
> favor of just text or C source code. If we do continue to have
> multiple "rich" output formats, we need even more rich syntax rules
> than we have right now. OTOH, if we dump all of those rich output
> formats, we have less tool spice that is needed.
>
> (I'm not ignoring Andrew's question here. I'm just applying the
> 7 patches/series and looking at it more.)
>
> > - if the requirement is good, perhaps alternative implementations should
> > be explored (dunno what).
>
> Yes, but I dunno what either.
>
>
> > IOW, I'd be interested in hearing Rob and Randy's opinions on it all,
> > please.
>
> It's great that Rusty took the time to produce all of this documentation.
> Few people do that today.
>
> Were current kernel-doc tools not sufficient? If not, why not?
A: Nope, kernel-doc won't weave the code + docs together based on a
prefix and order number (e.g., H:310).
Neat as that is, I'm concerned that it will be difficult to maintain
(the order numbers at least -- or are they just difficult to set up
the first time?).
Advantage: it does keep the source code + doc text together.
Martin (former kernel-doc maintainer) was going to come up with
some way to do this, but he abandoned it.
---
~Randy
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-24 3:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-21 1:17 Rusty Russell
2007-07-21 1:18 ` [PATCH 2/7] lguest: documentation pt II: Guest Rusty Russell
2007-07-21 1:19 ` [PATCH 3/7] lguest: documentation pt III: Drivers Rusty Russell
2007-07-21 1:20 ` [PATCH 4/7] lguest: documentation pt IV: Launcher Rusty Russell
2007-07-21 1:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] lguest: documentation pt V: Host Rusty Russell
2007-07-21 1:21 ` [PATCH 6/7] lguest: documentation pt VI: Switcher Rusty Russell
2007-07-21 1:24 ` [PATCH 7/7] lguest: documentation pt VII: FIXMEs Rusty Russell
2007-07-24 0:12 ` [PATCH 1/7] lguest: documentation pt I: Preparation Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 1:01 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-24 1:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-24 1:51 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-24 9:52 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-24 10:28 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-24 12:04 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-24 22:35 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-24 2:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-24 9:33 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-24 1:20 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 1:39 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-25 22:22 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-26 3:35 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-27 18:32 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-24 2:21 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-24 3:06 ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2007-07-24 3:27 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-25 19:30 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-24 15:13 ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-07-24 16:00 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-24 16:57 ` Randy Dunlap
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