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From: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>
To: "Ray Lee" <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
	davidel@xmailserver.org, drepper@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Problems with timerfd()
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:56:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070724155618.136490@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c0942db0707240822g35d13bb3r5acd2f361275fd06@mail.gmail.com>

> > > (This is the same sort of thing we already have to deal with in
> > > certain situations, such as network stat counters on 32 bit
> > > platforms.)
> >
> > But userspace can't deal with the condition accurately,
> 
> Okay, perhaps this is where I'm missing something? If userspace wakes
> up once every hour, checks the overrun counter against the previous
> (new-old), and goes back to sleep, that'd be good enough, right?

Yes.

> > so why
> > require userspace to worry about this when we could just use
> > a 64-bit value instead?
> 
> <shrug> I don't have strong feelings either way. It just seemed like
> something that could already be taken care of with today's interface.
> Given that the discussion was about an API change between 2.6.22 and
> 2.6.23, I was looking for options to avoid that.

In fact I don't have strong feelings on this part of the interface
design either.  I pointed out the limitation to Davide, and 
pointed out that the related eventfd interface read()s an 8-byte 
integer, and Davide then just fired off a patch to Andrew which 
went into --mm.

It's the other problems with the interface that bother me more
(inability to retrieve previous setting when changing
the timer; inability to retrieve time until next expiration
without changing the current setting).

Cheers,

Michael
-- 
Michael Kerrisk
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      reply	other threads:[~2007-07-24 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-23  6:32 Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-23  6:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-23  6:42   ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-23  8:02     ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-25 18:18   ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-25 22:12     ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-07  6:55       ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-07  7:36         ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-07  9:14           ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-09 21:11         ` [PATCH] Revised timerfd() interface Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-13 23:34           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-15 14:40           ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-07-23 16:55 ` Problems with timerfd() Ray Lee
2007-07-24  7:40   ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-24 15:22     ` Ray Lee
2007-07-24 15:56       ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]

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