From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: tom@opengridcomputing.com
Cc: jeff@garzik.org, swise@opengridcomputing.com,
mshefty@ichips.intel.com, rdreier@cisco.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
general@lists.openfabrics.org
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP ports from the host TCP port space.
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:17:51 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070816.141751.115907875.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1187271791.4685.9.camel@trinity.ogc.int>
From: Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:43:11 -0500
> Isn't RDMA _part_ of the "software net stack" within Linux?
It very much is not so.
When using RDMA you lose the capability to do packet shaping,
classification, and all the other wonderful networking facilities
you've grown to love and use over the years.
I'm glad this is a surprise to you, because it illustrates the
point some of us keep trying to make about technologies like
this.
Imagine if you didn't know any of this, you purchase and begin to
deploy a huge piece of RDMA infrastructure, you then get the mandate
from IT that you need to add firewalling on the RDMA connections at
the host level, and "oh shit" you can't?
This is why none of us core networking developers like RDMA at all.
It's totally not integrated with the rest of the Linux stack and on
top of that it even gets in the way. It's an abberation, an eye sore,
and a constant source of consternation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-16 21:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-07 14:37 Steve Wise
2007-08-07 14:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-07 15:06 ` Steve Wise
2007-08-07 15:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-09 18:49 ` Steve Wise
2007-08-09 21:40 ` [ofa-general] " Sean Hefty
2007-08-09 21:55 ` David Miller
2007-08-09 23:22 ` Sean Hefty
2007-08-15 14:42 ` Steve Wise
2007-08-16 2:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-16 3:11 ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-16 3:27 ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP portsfrom " Sean Hefty
2007-08-16 13:43 ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP ports from " Tom Tucker
2007-08-16 21:17 ` David Miller [this message]
2007-08-17 19:52 ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-17 21:27 ` David Miller
2007-08-17 23:31 ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-18 0:00 ` David Miller
2007-08-18 5:23 ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-18 6:44 ` David Miller
2007-08-19 7:01 ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP portsfrom " Sean Hefty
2007-08-19 7:23 ` David Miller
2007-08-19 17:33 ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCPportsfrom " Felix Marti
2007-08-19 19:32 ` David Miller
2007-08-19 19:49 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-19 23:04 ` David Miller
2007-08-20 0:32 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 0:40 ` David Miller
2007-08-20 0:47 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 1:05 ` David Miller
2007-08-20 1:41 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 11:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 16:26 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 19:16 ` Rick Jones
2007-08-20 9:43 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-20 16:53 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 18:10 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 19:02 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 20:18 ` Thomas Graf
2007-08-20 20:33 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 20:33 ` Patrick Geoffray
2007-08-21 4:21 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-19 23:27 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-19 23:12 ` David Miller
2007-08-20 1:45 ` Felix Marti
2007-08-20 0:18 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-21 1:16 ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP ports from " Roland Dreier
2007-08-21 6:58 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 19:38 ` Roland Dreier
2007-08-28 20:43 ` David Miller
2007-10-08 21:54 ` Steve Wise
2007-10-09 13:44 ` James Lentini
2007-10-10 21:01 ` Sean Hefty
2007-10-10 23:04 ` David Miller
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