From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
To: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>
Cc: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NFS hang + umount -f: better behaviour requested.
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:14:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070821171423.GQ3956@digitalkingdom.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46CB1A78.7040102@redhat.com>
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 01:01:44PM -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
> John Stoffel wrote:
> >Robin> I'm bringing this up again (I know it's been mentioned here
> >Robin> before) because I had been told that NFS support had gotten
> >Robin> better in Linux recently, so I have been (for my $dayjob)
> >Robin> testing the behaviour of NFS (autofs NFS, specifically) under
> >Robin> Linux with hard,intr and using iptables to simulate a hang.
> >
> >So why are you mouting with hard,intr semantics? At my current
> >SysAdmin job, we mount everything (solaris included) with
> >'soft,intr' and it works well. If an NFS server goes down,
> >clients don't hang for large periods of time.
>
> Wow! That's _really_ a bad idea. NFS READ operations which
> timeout can lead to executables which mysteriously fail, file
> corruption, etc. NFS WRITE operations which fail may or may not
> lead to file corruption.
>
> Anything writable should _always_ be mounted "hard" for safety
> purposes. Readonly mounted file systems _may_ be mounted "soft",
> depending upon what is located on them.
Does write + tcp make this any different?
-Robin
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-21 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-20 22:54 Robin Lee Powell
2007-08-20 23:27 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-20 23:34 ` Robin Lee Powell
2007-08-21 1:51 ` Salah Coronya
2007-08-21 16:43 ` John Stoffel
2007-08-21 16:55 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-21 17:01 ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-21 17:14 ` Chakri n
2007-08-21 17:14 ` Robin Lee Powell [this message]
2007-08-21 17:18 ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-21 18:50 ` John Stoffel
2007-08-21 19:04 ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-21 19:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-24 15:09 ` Ric Wheeler
2007-08-24 15:37 ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-24 15:53 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-21 23:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-22 10:03 ` Theodore Tso
2007-08-22 15:26 ` John Stoffel
2007-08-31 8:06 ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31 15:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-31 15:30 ` Ian Kent
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