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From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
To: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>
Cc: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NFS hang + umount -f: better behaviour requested.
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:14:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070821171423.GQ3956@digitalkingdom.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46CB1A78.7040102@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 01:01:44PM -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
> John Stoffel wrote:
> >Robin> I'm bringing this up again (I know it's been mentioned here
> >Robin> before) because I had been told that NFS support had gotten
> >Robin> better in Linux recently, so I have been (for my $dayjob)
> >Robin> testing the behaviour of NFS (autofs NFS, specifically) under
> >Robin> Linux with hard,intr and using iptables to simulate a hang.
> >
> >So why are you mouting with hard,intr semantics?  At my current
> >SysAdmin job, we mount everything (solaris included) with
> >'soft,intr' and it works well.  If an NFS server goes down,
> >clients don't hang for large periods of time. 
> 
> Wow!  That's _really_ a bad idea.  NFS READ operations which
> timeout can lead to executables which mysteriously fail, file
> corruption, etc.  NFS WRITE operations which fail may or may not
> lead to file corruption.
> 
> Anything writable should _always_ be mounted "hard" for safety
> purposes.  Readonly mounted file systems _may_ be mounted "soft",
> depending upon what is located on them.

Does write + tcp make this any different?

-Robin

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-21 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-20 22:54 Robin Lee Powell
2007-08-20 23:27 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-20 23:34   ` Robin Lee Powell
2007-08-21  1:51     ` Salah Coronya
2007-08-21 16:43 ` John Stoffel
2007-08-21 16:55   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-21 17:01   ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-21 17:14     ` Chakri n
2007-08-21 17:14     ` Robin Lee Powell [this message]
2007-08-21 17:18       ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-21 18:50     ` John Stoffel
2007-08-21 19:04       ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-21 19:25       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-24 15:09         ` Ric Wheeler
2007-08-24 15:37           ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-24 15:53           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-21 23:04       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-22 10:03         ` Theodore Tso
2007-08-22 15:26         ` John Stoffel
2007-08-31  8:06       ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31 15:10         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-31 15:30           ` Ian Kent

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