From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763813AbXH3XRF (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:17:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754984AbXH3XQz (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:16:55 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:42736 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754650AbXH3XQy (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:16:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:25:22 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: Al Boldi , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Designers and Builders (was: Who wants to maintain KR list for stable releases?) Message-ID: <20070831002522.4e725ba8@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <26616.1188484286@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <200708300731.24413.a1426z@gawab.com> <26616.1188484286@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > The problem is not builders, or designers - this list has plenty of both. > > What Adrian is talking about are the people who go to designers and say > "Build me something blue, with a design that doesn't work with the VFS". And the real test of whether someone is a good engineer or a dodgy consultant then follows. The engineer says "no" the consultant says "it'll cost ya" ;) Humour aside don;t knock the people who have the ideas - in amongst all the people wanting something that is insane are aluable pieces of information if you can ever work them out - What they actually *want* to be able to do, and sometimes ideas that are ones people used to the technology wouldn't have - most are silly but just occasionally you get the "that would be silly, we'd have to umm, interesting maybe we could, I'll get back to you" type ideas. Alan