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From: Brent Casavant <bcasavan@sgi.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: O_NOLINK for open()
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:48:52 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070912184601.M37791@pkunk.americas.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070912180937.Y5573@pkunk.americas.sgi.com>

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Brent Casavant wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Al Viro wrote:
> 
> > Give me a break.  And learn about ptrace(2).  This "unlinking" bullshit
> > buys you zero additional security, both for /proc/*/mem and for /dev/mem
> > (see mknod(2)).
> 
> My (limited) understanding of ptrace is that a parent-child
> relationship is needed between the tracing process and the traced
> process (at least that's what I gather from the man page).  This
> does give cause for concern, and I might have to see what can be
> done to alleviate this concern.  I fully realize that making this
> design completely unassilable is a fools errand, but closing off
> as many attack vectors as possible seems prudent.

Hmm.  The solution would appear to be as simple as making the
target program set-user-id.  As long as as the attacker isn't
the superuser (or has CAP_SYS_PTRACE) we should be OK.

Thanks for the heads-up,
Brent

-- 
Brent Casavant                          All music is folk music.  I ain't
bcasavan@sgi.com                        never heard a horse sing a song.
Silicon Graphics, Inc.                    -- Louis Armstrong

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-12 23:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-12 20:37 Brent Casavant
2007-09-12 21:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-09-12 21:39   ` Brent Casavant
2007-09-12 21:46     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-09-12 21:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-09-12 22:44   ` Brent Casavant
2007-09-12 22:49     ` Al Viro
2007-09-12 23:27       ` Brent Casavant
2007-09-12 23:48         ` Brent Casavant [this message]
2007-09-14 16:37         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2007-09-13 10:08 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-09-13 16:05   ` Brent Casavant
     [not found] <92Haf-7z7-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-12 22:33 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-09-13  9:13   ` Jan Kara
2007-09-14  9:07     ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] ` <92TO5-246-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <92Zqu-2ur-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-14 10:30     ` Bodo Eggert
2007-09-14 10:50       ` Andreas Schwab
2007-09-14 17:26         ` Bodo Eggert

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