From: Paul de Weerd <weerd@weirdnet.nl>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: "Can E. Acar" <can.acar@pro-g.com.tr>,
misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net>,
Eben Moglen <moglen@softwarefreedom.org>,
Lawrence Lessig <lessig_from_web@pobox.com>,
"Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@softwarefreedom.org>,
Matt Norwood <norwood@softwarefreedom.org>
Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:15:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070917151505.GV18186@despair.weirdnet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070917133845.GJ18232@stusta.de>
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 03:38:45PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
| It's not about lazyness of BSD developers, many people who consider the
| BSD licence more free than the GPL argue that the advantage of the BSD
| licence is that it does not require you to give back.
|
| Something is wrong if your licence text clearly states that you do not
| require getting anything back but you then argue on moral grounds that
| something has to be given back.
Something is wrong if your licence text clearly states that you MUST
give back, but then you don't return the favour on grounds that "hey,
they don't require it, so we don't have to".
It may be perfectly legal, but it's "interesting" to say the least.
No, you do not have to give back. But weren't you open source / free
software developers ? Why did you pick the GPL ? Because you didn't
want someone to run of with your code ? You wanted code to be given
back ? Why not do it yourself ? By not giving back you're giving a
strange signal.
Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
PS: Yes, I know .. but your "giving back" attaches new strings that
weren't there in the first place.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-17 15:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-16 18:48 Can E. Acar
2007-09-16 19:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-16 19:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-16 20:39 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-16 21:11 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-17 9:10 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 12:08 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-18 13:58 ` frantisek holop
2007-09-16 21:12 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-16 23:16 ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-16 23:40 ` david
2007-09-17 0:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-17 9:30 ` Henning Brauer
2007-09-17 12:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 13:15 ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-17 13:19 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2007-09-17 13:27 ` Sean
2007-09-17 13:33 ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-17 13:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 21:39 ` Ingo Schwarze
2007-09-17 23:56 ` Ingo Schwarze
2007-09-17 7:47 ` Helge Hafting
2007-09-17 11:50 ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-17 13:28 ` David Newall
2007-09-18 11:17 ` Helge Hafting
2007-09-17 11:18 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 12:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 13:39 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-17 15:20 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 19:50 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 20:35 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-17 21:09 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 23:35 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-18 0:03 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-18 0:44 ` Al Viro
2007-09-17 12:55 ` Claudio Jeker
2007-09-17 13:34 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 19:23 ` Claudio Jeker
2007-09-17 20:43 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 22:06 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-17 23:47 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-18 18:55 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-18 19:04 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-09-18 19:51 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-18 19:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-18 22:24 ` Martin Schlemmer
2007-09-18 9:00 ` Henning Brauer
2007-09-18 11:29 ` Marco Peereboom
2007-09-18 12:04 ` Wasting our Bandwidth Xavier Bestel
2007-09-18 12:24 ` Marco Peereboom
2007-09-18 12:56 ` Wasting our Freedom Theodore Tso
2007-09-18 11:28 ` Gilles Chehade
2007-09-18 15:47 ` Denis Doroshenko
2007-09-18 15:55 ` frantisek holop
2007-09-18 17:15 ` Marco Peereboom
2007-09-18 23:34 ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-19 0:24 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-16 21:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-16 22:37 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-16 23:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 0:29 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 0:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 1:35 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 1:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 3:37 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 1:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 1:40 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 1:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 9:20 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 13:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 15:15 ` Paul de Weerd [this message]
2007-09-17 15:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 18:02 ` Paul de Weerd
2007-09-17 18:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 19:27 ` Paul de Weerd
[not found] ` <c746fc3a3d81920b224537f96efe1605@localhost>
2007-09-17 19:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 15:25 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 16:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 17:14 ` Wasting My Time (was Re: Wasting our Freedom) Eric Furman
2007-09-16 22:19 ` Wasting our Freedom David Schwartz
2007-09-17 11:20 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 11:57 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 12:06 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 12:36 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-16 20:32 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-17 3:00 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-17 3:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-17 5:33 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-17 6:43 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-17 7:36 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-17 12:10 ` Krzysztof Halasa
[not found] <947Fl-2qO-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <948rP-3pK-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <949e6-4Ed-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <949Hd-5vb-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <94l5J-6gO-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <94oZy-3Sa-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <94qIg-6Ft-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-18 11:16 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-09-18 11:46 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-09-18 11:49 ` Jason Dixon
[not found] <5C8C3794-C62A-4935-8267-81080CCF6867@dixongroup.net>
2007-09-15 10:33 ` J.C. Roberts
2007-09-15 10:58 ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-16 7:32 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-16 7:52 ` J.C. Roberts
2007-09-16 8:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-16 8:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-09-16 9:17 ` J.C. Roberts
2007-09-16 9:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-16 15:23 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-16 20:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-17 8:22 ` J.C. Roberts
2007-09-17 14:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 14:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-16 20:33 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-16 8:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-16 10:05 ` J.C. Roberts
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