From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [00/17] [RFC] Virtual Compound Page Support
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:34:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070919103400.7bc8ffd9.dada1@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A6E599E-07AC-4273-8643-ADFC8014D3E6@cam.ac.uk>
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:34:47 +0100
Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi Christoph,
>
> On 19 Sep 2007, at 04:36, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > Currently there is a strong tendency to avoid larger page
> > allocations in
> > the kernel because of past fragmentation issues and the current
> > defragmentation methods are still evolving. It is not clear to what
> > extend
> > they can provide reliable allocations for higher order pages (plus the
> > definition of "reliable" seems to be in the eye of the beholder).
> >
> > Currently we use vmalloc allocations in many locations to provide a
> > safe
> > way to allocate larger arrays. That is due to the danger of higher
> > order
> > allocations failing. Virtual Compound pages allow the use of regular
> > page allocator allocations that will fall back only if there is an
> > actual
> > problem with acquiring a higher order page.
> >
> > This patch set provides a way for a higher page allocation to fall
> > back.
> > Instead of a physically contiguous page a virtually contiguous page
> > is provided. The functionality of the vmalloc layer is used to provide
> > the necessary page tables and control structures to establish a
> > virtually
> > contiguous area.
>
> I like this a lot. It will get rid of all the silly games we have to
> play when needing both large allocations and efficient allocations
> where possible. In NTFS I can then just allocated higher order pages
> instead of having to mess about with the allocation size and
> allocating a single page if the requested size is <= PAGE_SIZE or
> using vmalloc() if the size is bigger. And it will make it faster
> because a lot of the time a higher order page allocation will succeed
> with your patchset without resorting to vmalloc() so that will be a
> lot faster.
>
> So where I currently have fs/ntfs/malloc.h the below mess I could get
> rid of it completely and just use the normal page allocator/
> deallocator instead...
>
> static inline void *__ntfs_malloc(unsigned long size, gfp_t gfp_mask)
> {
> if (likely(size <= PAGE_SIZE)) {
> BUG_ON(!size);
> /* kmalloc() has per-CPU caches so is faster for
> now. */
> return kmalloc(PAGE_SIZE, gfp_mask & ~__GFP_HIGHMEM);
> /* return (void *)__get_free_page(gfp_mask); */
> }
> if (likely(size >> PAGE_SHIFT < num_physpages))
> return __vmalloc(size, gfp_mask, PAGE_KERNEL);
> return NULL;
> }
>
> And other places in the kernel can make use of the same. I think XFS
> does very similar things to NTFS in terms of larger allocations at
> least and there are probably more places I don't know about off the
> top of my head...
>
> I am looking forward to your patchset going into mainline. (-:
Sure, it sounds *really* good. But...
1) Only power of two allocations are good candidates, or we waste RAM
2) On i386 machines, we have a small vmalloc window. (128 MB default value)
Many servers with >4GB memory (PAE) like to boot with vmalloc=32M option to get 992MB of LOWMEM.
If we allow some slub caches to fallback to vmalloc land, we'll have problems to tune this.
3) A fallback to vmalloc means an allocation of one vm_struct per compound page.
4) vmalloc() currently uses a linked list of vm_struct. Might need something more scalable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-19 9:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-19 3:36 Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [01/17] Vmalloc: Move vmalloc_to_page to mm/vmalloc Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [02/17] Vmalloc: add const Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [03/17] is_vmalloc_addr(): Check if an address is within the vmalloc boundaries Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 6:32 ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 7:24 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 8:09 ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 8:44 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 9:19 ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 13:23 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 17:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:52 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 17:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:52 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [04/17] vmalloc: clean up page array indexing Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [05/17] vunmap: return page array Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 8:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 22:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-20 0:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [06/17] vmalloc_address(): Determine vmalloc address from page struct Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [07/17] GFP_VFALLBACK: Allow fallback of compound pages to virtual mappings Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [08/17] Pass vmalloc address in page->private Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [09/17] VFALLBACK: Debugging aid Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [10/17] Use GFP_VFALLBACK for sparsemem Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [11/17] GFP_VFALLBACK for zone wait table Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [12/17] Virtual Compound page allocation from interrupt context Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [13/17] Virtual compound page freeing in " Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18 20:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-20 17:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [14/17] Allow bit_waitqueue to wait on a bit in a vmalloc area Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 4:12 ` Gabriel C
2007-09-19 17:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Christoph Lameter
2007-09-27 21:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 5:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-01 20:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 8:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-04 16:16 ` SLUB performance regression vs SLAB Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 17:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 17:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-04 17:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 18:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 20:48 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 20:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 21:05 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 23:39 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-04 23:49 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-05 4:18 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-04 18:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 19:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 19:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 19:46 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-10-04 20:55 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:02 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 21:11 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:47 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 22:07 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 22:23 ` David Chinner
2007-10-05 6:48 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-05 9:28 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 11:12 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-05 12:39 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 19:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 19:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 11:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-05 12:37 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 19:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 20:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 21:31 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-05 2:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 2:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-09-28 17:55 ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 18:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 18:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 20:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 21:14 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-28 20:59 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-29 8:13 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 8:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 8:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 9:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 9:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 20:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-29 19:20 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 19:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-30 20:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-30 4:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-29 9:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 20:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-01 21:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 21:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-01 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 21:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-01 21:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 8:37 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 21:05 ` Mel Gorman
2007-10-01 21:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [16/17] Allow virtual fallback for buffer_heads Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [17/17] Allow virtual fallback for dentries Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 7:34 ` [00/17] [RFC] Virtual Compound Page Support Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 8:34 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2007-09-19 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 8:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 17:36 ` Christoph Lameter
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