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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:11:10 -0700
From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
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On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 06:27:48PM -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2007, at 17:34:45, Greg KH wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 02:37:42PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
>>> That fact that sysfs is all laid out in a directory, but for which some 
>>> directories/symlinks are OK to use, and some are NOT OK to use --- is why 
>>> I call the sysfs interface "an open pit".
>>
>> And because of the original design mistakes, we have only been able to 
>> change things for the better in a slow manner.  We have had userspace 
>> programs fixed up for _years_ before we are able to make the corresponding 
>> changes in the kernel, so as to not break the distros that are slow to 
>> upgrade packages and kernels (like Debian.)
>
> Hey!  No poking fingers at Debian here; it's been *MUCH* improved lately.  

Heh, sorry, but Debian in the past had a lot of problems in this area.
It's good to know that this is no longer a issue :)

thanks,

greg k-h