From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
casey@schaufler-ca.com, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:20:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071008222058.208c6f32@the-village.bc.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1hcl11j31.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
> My very practical question: How do I run selinux in one container,
> and SMACK in another?
In the LSM model you don't because you could have the same container
objects visible in different contains at the same time and subject to
different LSMs. What does it mean to pass an SELinux protected object
over an AppArmour protected unix domain socket into a SMACK protected
container ?
If you want consistency then you probably need to put the container id
into the LSM calls and provide the ability in one system to do container
specific checks. Right now I suspect the way to do it is to complete the
work to convert SMACK rulesets into SELinux rulesets with tools.
Really its the same problem as "I'd like to use different file permission
systems on different process identifiers" and it would be very hard to
get right simply because objects can pass between two different security
models.
Pyramid tried to do the "simple" case of BSD and System 5 on the same box
and got caught out even with that because of the different rules on stuff
like chgrp..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-08 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-30 0:20 Casey Schaufler
2007-09-30 8:16 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-30 8:42 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-30 17:14 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-09-30 17:34 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-30 23:24 ` david
2007-09-30 17:29 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-09-30 17:39 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-30 19:07 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-30 20:05 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-30 20:22 ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-01 20:28 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-09-30 20:18 ` Paul Moore
2007-09-30 9:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-09-30 17:19 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-02 8:36 ` Thomas Bleher
2007-09-30 17:02 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-09-30 20:30 ` Paul Moore
2007-10-01 11:33 ` James Morris
2007-10-01 15:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-01 15:40 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-01 16:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-01 17:54 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-10-02 21:02 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-02 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-02 23:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-03 0:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-04 22:56 ` Derek Fawcus
2007-10-04 23:18 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 23:44 ` Derek Fawcus
2007-10-03 5:32 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-03 3:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-03 4:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-05 1:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-05 3:04 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-05 4:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-05 5:48 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-05 16:27 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-05 18:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-05 20:08 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-05 20:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 17:50 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 18:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 18:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-08 21:05 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 16:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-08 17:31 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-09 13:52 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-09 16:02 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 23:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-08 16:06 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-08 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 18:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-08 19:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 19:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 20:39 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 21:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 21:20 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2007-10-10 13:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-10 15:45 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-10 17:57 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-11 10:46 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-11 15:41 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-11 18:53 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-11 20:09 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-08 21:51 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30 4:01 ` Kazuki Omo(Company)
2007-10-30 15:07 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 20:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 20:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-06 19:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-03 0:10 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-03 0:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-01 16:39 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-01 19:00 ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-01 15:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-01 20:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-01 3:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-01 4:15 ` Casey Schaufler
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