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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: "David Chinner" <dgc@sgi.com>,
	"Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy@goop.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Mark Williamson" <mark.williamson@cl.cam.ac.uk>,
	"Morten Bøgeskov" <xen-users@morten.bogeskov.dk>,
	xfs-masters@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Interaction between Xen and XFS: stray RW mappings
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:56:46 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200710160056.47458.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p731wbw4t3h.fsf@bingen.suse.de>

On Monday 15 October 2007 19:36, Andi Kleen wrote:
> David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com> writes:
> > And yes, we delay unmapping pages until we have a batch of them
> > to unmap. vmap and vunmap do not scale, so this is batching helps
> > alleviate some of the worst of the problems.
>
> You're keeping vmaps around for already freed pages?

> That will be a big problem for proper PAT support, which needs
> to track all mappings to memory. It's not just a problem for Xen.
>
> In fact I suspect it is already broken with DRM or AGP for example which
> can use UC and WC mappings -- if you keep the mapping around and
> DRM or AGP turns the page in another mapping uncacheable you're
> creating an illegal cache attribute alias. These are known to occasionally
> create cache corruptions on several x86s; giving ___VERY___ hard to debug
> bugs once a blue moon.

Is this true even if you don't write through those old mappings?
Is DRM or AGP then not also broken with lazy highmem flushing, or
how do they solve that?


> Probably it'll require some generic VM batching mechanism where
> Xen or PAT code can hook into the list or force unmap the mappings
> as needed.

Definitely.


> Definitely needs to be fixed if true. You're lucky that Xen caught it
> in time.

I've been thinking that a simple debug mode could be a good idea.
Have a new field in the struct page to count the number of possible
unflushed mappings to the page so that things like PAT could go
BUG_ON appropriate conditions. Would that be helpful?

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-15  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-12 16:58 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-12 17:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-14 22:56 ` David Chinner
2007-10-14 23:12   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-14 23:33     ` David Chinner
2007-10-15  4:15     ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-15  0:57       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-15  7:26         ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-15  3:42           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-15  4:11             ` David Chinner
2007-10-15  4:18               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-15  4:25                 ` David Chinner
2007-10-15  8:31                   ` [xfs-masters] " Christoph Hellwig
2007-10-22  3:18       ` dean gaudet
2007-10-22  3:34         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-22  4:28           ` dean gaudet
2007-10-22  4:39             ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-22 18:37               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-22 18:32             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-22 13:47           ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-22 18:40             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-22 19:07               ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-22 19:11                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-22 22:32                 ` David Chinner
2007-10-22 23:35                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-23  0:16                     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-23  0:36                     ` David Chinner
2007-10-23  7:04                       ` [patch] " David Chinner
2007-10-23  9:30                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-23 12:41                           ` David Chinner
2007-10-23 14:33                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-24  4:36                           ` [PATCH] Allow lazy unmapping by taking extra page references V2 David Chinner
2007-10-24  5:08                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-24 21:48                               ` [PATCH] Allow lazy unmapping by taking extra page references V3 David Chinner
2007-10-24 22:46                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-24 23:21                                   ` David Chinner
2007-10-23  9:28                       ` Interaction between Xen and XFS: stray RW mappings Andi Kleen
2007-10-15  9:36   ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-15 14:56     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-10-15 11:07       ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-15 11:28         ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-15 12:54           ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-21 12:17             ` Dave Airlie
2007-10-21 22:16         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-22  9:49           ` Andi Kleen

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