From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"George G. Davis" <gdavis@mvista.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH] locks: remove posix deadlock detection
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:06:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071029080604.508b19ce@the-village.bc.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071028174321.GB16905@fieldses.org>
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:43:21 -0400
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> From: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@citi.umich.edu>
>
> We currently attempt to return -EDEALK to blocking fcntl() file locking
> requests that would create a cycle in the graph of tasks waiting on
> locks.
>
> This is inefficient: in the general case it requires us determining
> whether we're adding a cycle to an arbitrary directed acyclic graph.
> And this calculation has to be performed while holding a lock (currently
> the BKL) that prevents that graph from changing.
>
> It has historically been a source of bugs; most recently it was noticed
> that it could loop indefinitely while holding the BKL.
>
> It seems unlikely to be useful to applications:
> - The difficulty of implementation has kept standards from
> requiring it. (E.g. SUSv3 : "Since implementation of full
> deadlock detection is not always feasible, the [EDEADLK] error
> was made optional.") So portable applications may not be able to
> depend on it.
> - It only detects deadlocks that involve nothing but local posix
> file locks; deadlocks involving network filesystems or other kinds
> of locks or resources are missed.
>
> It therefore seems best to remove deadlock detection.
>
> Signed-off-by: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@citi.umich.edu>
NAK. This is an ABI change and one that was rejected before when this was
last discussed in detail. Moving it out of BKL makes a ton of sense, even
adding a "don't check" flag makes a lot of sense. Removing the checking
does not.
I'd much rather see
if (flags & FL_NODLCHECK)
posix_deadlock_detect(....)
The failure case for removing this feature is obscure and hard to debug
application hangs for the afflicted programs - not nice for users at all.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-29 8:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-17 18:51 [RFC][PATCH] Fix hang in posix_locks_deadlock() George G. Davis
2007-10-17 23:41 ` George G. Davis
2007-10-18 18:57 ` George G. Davis
2007-10-26 17:07 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-26 22:47 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-28 17:31 ` [PATCH] locks: fix possible infinite loop in posix deadlock detection J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-28 17:43 ` [RFC, PATCH] locks: remove " J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-28 18:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-28 18:40 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-28 20:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-28 21:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-28 21:45 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-10-28 23:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-28 23:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-28 21:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-28 22:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-28 22:48 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-28 22:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-28 23:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-29 2:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-29 8:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-29 9:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-10-30 15:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-28 22:55 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-10-28 23:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-29 9:11 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-10-29 2:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-29 3:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-29 1:13 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-29 8:06 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2007-10-30 15:51 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-30 15:20 ` [PATCH, RESEND] locks: fix possible infinite loop in " J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-30 15:35 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-28 17:47 ` [RFC][PATCH] Fix hang in posix_locks_deadlock() J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-02 15:05 ` George G. Davis
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