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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-am33-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] Suppress A.OUT library support if !CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT [try #5]
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:05:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071111160504.GR21669@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200711111646.27496.ak@suse.de>

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 04:46:26PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> 
> > My thoughts go more into the direction that we have hundreds of similar
> > cases where e.g. a VFS function might currently only by used by OCFS2
> > and therefore be dead code for most users, and the only maintainable
> > solution will be to solve these at the compiler and/or linker level.
> 
>  -ffunction-sections can mostly do it, but only for non modular kernels
> 
> One problem is that EXPORT_SYMBOL always creates a reference to the function
> even when nothing uses it.
> 
> We would need a weak EXPORT_SYMBOL and some way to check references
> over main kernel and modules. I suppose it could be done as part of modpost
> and then generating a custom linker script that only includes the function
> sections referenced by anybody. But to make this work it would require
> putting all the EXPORT_SYMBOLs into own sections too, but I suppose
> that would be possible.
> 
> In the past we had trouble that the explicit linker scripts mentioning every 
> function section made the linker very slow, but perhaps that's fixed now.

I don't remember the technical details, but Denys Vlasenko posted some 
patches that implemented -ffunction-sections while retaining exports.

Another approach would be calling gcc with "-combine -fwhole-program".

David Woodhouse once sent a whacky patch that implemented this on a 
per-module basis retaining exports.

Much harder, but with the biggest possible savings, would be a 
CONFIG_MODULES=n kernel built with one gcc call.

>...
> The question is if it would be still have a large enough user base without the 
> distribution kernels. If it would be only used by a few users I don't think 
> the maintenance overhead would be worth it.
>...

You forget the big embedded userbase - some even stay at kernel 2.4 
since kernel 2.6 is much bigger.

> -Andi

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-11 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-09 15:34 [PATCH 0/6] MN10300: Add the MN10300 architecture to Linux kernel " David Howells
2007-11-09 15:34 ` [PATCH 1/6] Suppress A.OUT library support if !CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT " David Howells
2007-11-11  2:14   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-11 11:25   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-11 13:59   ` David Howells
2007-11-11 14:22     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-11 15:03     ` David Howells
2007-11-11 15:19       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-11 15:46         ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-11 16:05           ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-11-11 16:31         ` David Howells
2007-11-12 15:34   ` David Howells
2007-11-12 19:53     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-12 22:50       ` SL Baur
2007-11-12 23:14       ` David Howells
2007-11-13  3:09         ` SL Baur
2007-11-13 10:57         ` David Howells
2007-11-13 11:18           ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 12:46             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-13 20:40               ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-13 20:46                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-03 15:15   ` David Howells
2007-12-03 16:00     ` Ralf Baechle
2007-12-03 16:17       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-09 15:34 ` [PATCH 2/6] MTD: Add support for the SST 39VF1601 flash chip " David Howells
2007-11-09 22:34   ` David Woodhouse
2007-11-09 15:34 ` [PATCH 3/6] USB: net2280 can't have a function called show_registers() " David Howells
2007-11-09 15:34 ` [PATCH 4/6] MN10300: Allocate serial port UART IDs for on-chip serial ports " David Howells
2007-11-09 15:35 ` [PATCH 6/6] MN10300: Add MTD flash support for the ASB2303 board " David Howells
2007-11-10  4:05   ` David Woodhouse
2007-11-11 14:01   ` David Howells
     [not found] ` <20071109153458.20803.10594.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
2007-11-10  3:53   ` [PATCH 5/6] MN10300: Add the MN10300/AM33 architecture to the kernel " Andrew Morton
2007-11-10 12:18   ` David Howells
2007-11-10 19:43     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-10 20:02       ` Alan Cox
2007-11-12  7:44       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-10 20:09     ` Alan Cox
2007-11-11 14:32     ` David Howells
2007-11-11 14:48     ` David Howells
2007-11-11 15:18       ` Alan Cox
2007-11-11 16:36       ` David Howells
2007-11-11 16:42         ` Alan Cox
2007-11-12 12:19         ` David Howells
2007-11-11 15:07     ` David Howells

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