From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com>,
hbabu@us.ibm.com, vgoyal@in.ibm.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kexec: force x86_64 arches to boot kdump kernels on boot cpu
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:34:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071127153444.GD31376@hmsreliant.think-freely.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1lk8jka8j.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 07:56:44AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> writes:
>
> > his is any less reliable that what we have currently.
> >>
> >> It doesn't make things more reliable, and it adds code to a code path
> >> that already has to much code to be solid reliable (thus your
> >> problem).
> >>
> >> Putting the system back in PIC legacy mode on the kexec on panic path
> >> was supposed to be a short term hack until we could remove the need
> >> by always deliver interrupts in apic mode.
> >>
> >> If you can't root cause your problem and figure out how the apics
> >> are misconfigured for legacy mode
> >
> > Probably legacy mode always routes to CPU #0. Makes sense and is
> > not really a misconfiguration of legacy mode.
>
> Possible. So far I have not seen a hardware setup that would force
> interrupts to cpu #0 in legacy mode. But I would not be truly
> surprised if it happened that there was hardware that only worked that
> way.
>
That would certainly explain the behavior I am observing here.\
> > But if CPU #0 has interrupts disabled no interrupts get delivered.
> >
> > So choices are:
> > - Move to CPU #0
> > - Do not use legacy mode during shutdown.
> (Do not use legacy mode in the kdump kernel. removing it from shutdown
> is just minor optimization)
> > - Or do not rely on interrupts after enabling legacy mode
> > - Or do not disable interrupts on the other CPUs when they're
> > halted.
> >
> > First and last option are probably unreliable for the kdump case.
> > Second or third sound best.
> >
> > I suspect the real fix would be to enable IOAPIC mode really
> > early and never use the timers in legacy mode. Then the kdump
> > kernel wouldn't care about the legacy mode pointing to the wrong CPU.
>
> Exactly. If we can work out the details that should be a much more reliable
> mode of operation.
>
> > IIrc Eric even had a patch for that a long time ago, but it broke some
> > things so it wasn't included. But perhaps it should be revisited.
>
> My real problem was the failure case was obscure (a bad interaction
> with ACPI on Linus's laptop) and I didn't have the time to track it
> down when it showed up.
>
> My patch had two parts. Some cleanups to enable the code to be enabled
> early, and the actually early enable. I figure if we can get the
> cleanups in one major kernel version and then in the next enable
> the apic mode before we start getting interrupts we should be in good
> shape.
>
> I expect with x86 becoming an embedded platform with multiple cpus we
> may start seeing systems that don't actually support legacy PIC mode
> for interrupt delivery.
do you have a pointer to the old patch set? I'd like to try it out on the failing system here.
Regards
Neil
>
> Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-27 15:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-27 1:47 Neil Horman
2007-11-27 4:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-27 13:13 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 13:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-27 13:45 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 14:28 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 14:43 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 14:48 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 15:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 15:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-27 16:45 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 20:50 ` Ben Woodard
2007-11-27 21:05 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 22:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-27 23:15 ` Ben Woodard
2007-11-28 0:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-27 23:40 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-28 0:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-28 15:54 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 14:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-27 15:34 ` Neil Horman [this message]
2007-11-27 18:41 ` Ben Woodard
2007-11-27 19:42 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 20:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-11-27 20:52 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 22:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 23:24 ` Ben Woodard
2007-11-27 23:56 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-28 15:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-11-28 16:02 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-28 17:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-28 18:16 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-28 19:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-11-28 19:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-28 21:09 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-28 23:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-30 2:16 ` Ben Woodard
2007-11-30 2:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-30 8:59 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-11-30 14:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-11-30 14:32 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-30 2:12 ` Ben Woodard
2007-11-30 14:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-11-30 14:51 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-06 21:39 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-06 22:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-12-07 0:10 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-07 14:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-12-07 14:53 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-07 15:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-12-07 15:53 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-07 18:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-07 0:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-07 2:04 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-07 8:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-12-07 9:22 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-12-07 14:21 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-07 17:58 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-07 19:19 ` yhlu
2007-12-07 20:13 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-10 15:39 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-10 16:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-12-11 1:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-11 1:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-11 3:43 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-11 4:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-11 6:31 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-12-11 14:39 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-11 15:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-11 18:00 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-12-11 18:29 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-11 18:45 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-12-11 18:22 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-11 18:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-11 19:24 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-11 19:51 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-12-11 20:59 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-12 0:16 ` Ben Woodard
2007-12-12 0:52 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-12 1:07 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-12-12 8:43 ` [PATCH] k8: Enable legacy irqs with extended cpu ids Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-12 14:21 ` [PATCH] kexec: force x86_64 arches to boot kdump kernels on boot cpu Andi Kleen
2007-12-12 15:55 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-12 16:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-12 19:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-12 20:22 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-12 21:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-13 14:39 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-13 15:16 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-13 15:32 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-17 11:38 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-18 0:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-17 15:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 15:47 ` Neil Horman
2007-12-07 18:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-07 18:48 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 13:53 ` Neil Horman
2007-11-27 10:55 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 11:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-27 13:28 ` Neil Horman
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