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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: andi@firstfloor.org
Cc: nashif@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Intel Management Engine Interface
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:02:02 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071211.110202.186865875.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071211185317.GA21864@one.firstfloor.org>

From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:53:17 +0100

> Ok but saving oops is such a useful facility that we'll probably
> need to think about implementing SOAP in the kernel.

Ummm, no.

UDP is stateless, a stripped down copy of TCP we simply
do not need.  We also do not need XML in the kernel either.

If they want to support things like this they should do it in the
firmware of the management entity like every other sane server
platform does these days.

The console and OOPS messages should go over an extremely resilient
transport which is as simple as possible which usually means shared
memory or I/O memory with some simple handshake or doorbell.  This
gets it to the management entity board or whatever, and how it gets
from there to the remote system is it's business not that of the
kernel.

Not TCP, and definitely not this XML SOAP crap.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-11 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-11 17:32 Anas Nashif
2007-12-11 18:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-11 18:38   ` Anas Nashif
2007-12-11 18:53     ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-11 19:02       ` David Miller [this message]
2007-12-11 19:47         ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-11 19:06       ` Anas Nashif
2007-12-11 19:48         ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-12 15:00         ` Mark Lord
2007-12-12 16:17           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-12  8:48 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-05-20  0:11 Anas Nashif
2008-05-20  0:28 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-20 19:02   ` Gabriel C
2008-05-22 16:51   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-20 15:42 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-05-20 20:35 ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-05-20 22:27 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-05-23  7:04 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-17 18:27 Marcin Obara
2008-07-18  0:00 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-18  5:44 ` Marcin Obara
2008-07-18 17:39   ` Marcin Obara
2008-07-18 19:23     ` Marcin Obara
2008-07-18 20:30       ` Marcin Obara
2008-07-23 18:00         ` Marcin Obara
2008-08-11 19:23           ` Marcin Obara
2008-08-12  4:53             ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-12 16:15               ` Jiri Slaby
2008-08-12 19:24                 ` Marcin Obara
2008-08-12 19:24                   ` Alan Cox
2008-08-12 21:03                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-13  0:58             ` Greg KH
2008-08-13  7:16               ` Marcin Obara
2008-08-13 18:18                 ` Greg KH
2008-08-13 19:48                   ` Marcin Obara
2008-08-14  0:23                     ` Greg KH
2008-07-18  9:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 10:51   ` Marcin Obara
2008-07-18 11:02     ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 11:33       ` Marcin Obara
2008-08-06 16:56 ` Pavel Machek

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