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From: Jakob Oestergaard <jakob@unthought.net>
To: "Björn Steinbrink" <B.Steinbrink@gmx.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@saeurebad.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	clameter@sgi.com, penberg@cs.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: Why is the kfree() argument const?
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:53:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080118145343.GR25527@unthought.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080118133116.GA31790@atjola.homenet>

On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 02:31:16PM +0100, Björn Steinbrink wrote:
...
> 
> Do you see anything that casts the const away? No? Me neither. Still,
> the memory that p points to was changed, because there was another
> pointer and that was not const.

*another* being key here.

> 
> > *That* is the purpose of const pointers.
> 
> The only thing that const can tell you is that you should not modify the
> value _yourself_, using that pointer _directly_.

Which is pretty damn useful.

Think about it.  Don't you ever use const?  Is it ever only in the way?

...
{snip long explanation about how one can avoid the benefits of const, without
using casts}
...
> If you want to restrict the set of pointers that can be invalidated by
> an other pointer, you'll have to use something else because const does
> not talk about invalidating aliasing pointers.

Precisely, so why are we discussing this?

I claim that const is useful. You claim that it can't solve all the worlds
problems. I agree with that, but I maintain it is still useful.

But, in order for it to be useful, it requires that people do not circumvent it
in the wrong places (such as kfree).

-- 

 / jakob


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-18 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKIEGIJJAC.davids@webmaster.com>
2008-01-17 21:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 22:28   ` David Schwartz
2008-01-17 23:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18  0:56       ` David Schwartz
2008-01-18  1:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18  5:02           ` David Schwartz
2008-01-18 15:38             ` Chris Friesen
2008-01-18 16:10             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 20:55               ` David Schwartz
2008-01-18 17:37             ` Olivier Galibert
2008-01-18 18:06             ` DM
2008-01-18  7:51           ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2008-01-18  8:20             ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2008-01-18 13:53               ` Andy Lutomirski
2008-01-18 17:24                 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-01-18 22:29                   ` J.A. Magallón
2008-01-18 23:44                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-18 13:54               ` Andy Lutomirski
2008-01-18 19:14                 ` Vadim Lobanov
2008-01-18 19:31                   ` Zan Lynx
2008-01-18 19:55                     ` Vadim Lobanov
2008-01-18  8:30             ` Vadim Lobanov
2008-01-18  9:48   ` Jakob Oestergaard
2008-01-18 11:47     ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-01-18 14:39       ` Jakob Oestergaard
2008-01-18 19:06       ` Vadim Lobanov
2008-01-18 13:31     ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-01-18 14:53       ` Jakob Oestergaard [this message]
     [not found] <fa.cHMztHfqJXv7vw5O0nQ8SdTrma0@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.V9M+5l8C/um5KEiBtZOjbJDQmu4@ifi.uio.no>
2013-01-12 19:18   ` antoine.trux
2013-01-13  8:10     ` Chen Gang F T
2013-01-13 17:41       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-01-14  1:45         ` Chen Gang F T
2013-01-13 20:54       ` Cong Ding
2013-01-14  1:18         ` Chen Gang F T
2008-01-18 19:10 ecolbus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-18 16:45 ecolbus
2008-01-18 18:20 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-01-18 12:45 ecolbus
2008-01-18 15:20 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-01-16 16:32 Johannes Weiner
2008-01-16 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-16 17:34   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-16 17:45   ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-01-16 18:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 22:19   ` Johannes Weiner
2008-01-16 22:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-16 22:37       ` Johannes Weiner
2008-01-16 23:13       ` Johannes Weiner
2008-01-16 23:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 23:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 22:33   ` Steven Rostedt

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