From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@wpkg.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Celeron Core
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:26:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801202326.37030.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4793C5CA.5060100@wpkg.org>
On Sunday, 20 of January 2008, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> >> Clock throttling is not likely to save your battery, unless you have
> >> tasks that are running at 100% CPU for an unlimited time or something,
> >> and you force your CPU to throttle. Normally most people have tasks that
> >> run and then the CPU idles - loading an email, displaying a web page,
> >> etc. Clock throttling will just make these tasks utilize the CPU for a
> >> longer time proportional to the amount clock throttling and therefore
> >> negate any gains in battery usage.
>
> Aren't you forgetting about CPUfreq governors? Which mean: use the
> maximum CPU frequency when the system is busy, throttle down (or lower
> voltage) when the system is idle.
>
> So yes, throttling will save the battery.
In the relevant documentation "throttling" usually means "the reduction of the
frequency of a CPU that is not idle" in which case it won't (at least on the
average).
> Besides, not all CPUs support power management (voltage control).
>
>
> > IMO clock throttling (as opposed to the reduction of the frequency of an idle
> > CPU) is only useful for preventing the CPU from overheating.
>
> And for reducing power on CPUs that can't do any power management, just
> throttling.
>
> For example, a server that doesn't crunch any numbers at night will
> certainly use less power when throttled.
You can't use less power, you only can use less energy. :-)
Anyway, that's "the reduction of the frequency of an idle CPU" mentioned above
and it makes sense in the majority of cases.
Greetings,
Rafael
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2008-01-20 22:06 Tomasz Chmielewski
2008-01-20 22:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
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2008-01-20 18:24 ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-20 19:14 ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-20 19:24 ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-20 21:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-21 7:48 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-20 19:16 ` Andi Kleen
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2008-01-18 19:06 Chodorenko Michail
2008-01-18 21:11 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-19 0:27 ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-19 1:15 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-19 4:10 ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-19 4:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-19 4:40 ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-19 4:54 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-20 4:35 ` David Newall
2008-01-20 5:13 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-20 5:23 ` David Newall
2008-01-20 5:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-20 20:53 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-20 11:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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