From: serge@hallyn.com
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@openvz.org>,
Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Fix /proc/net in presence of net namespaces
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:17:20 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080228211720.GA1232@vino.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1y794514k.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
> Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org> writes:
>
> > Current /proc/net is done with so called "shadows", but current
> > implementation is broken and has little chances to get fixed.
> >
> > The problem is that dentries subtree of /proc/net directory has
> > fancy revalidation rules to make processes living in different
> > net namespaces see different entries in /proc/net subtree, but
> > currently, tasks see in the /proc/net subdir the contents of any
> > other namespace, depending on who opened the file first.
> >
> > The proposed fix is to turn /proc/net into a symlink, which behaves
> > similar to /proc/self link - it points to .netns/<id> directory
> > where the <id> is the id of net namespace, current task lives in.
> >
> > # ls -l /proc/net
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Feb 28 18:38 /proc/net -> .netns/0
> >
> > The /proc/.netns dir contains subtrees for all the namespaces in
> > the system:
> >
> > # ls -l /proc/.netns/
> > total 0
> > dr-xr-xr-x 5 root root 0 Feb 28 18:39 0
> > dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 Feb 28 18:39 1
> >
> > To provide some security each /proc/.netns/<id> directory allows
> > access to tasks that live in the owning namespace only (with the
> > exception, that init_net tasks can see everything).
>
>
> Nack. Yet another global set of ids that require us to implement another
> namespace looks like the wrong way to go.
Sentiment granted, but I'm not sure it can be an issue. It *could* be
in issue if we moved to a more flexible access control here here any
netns could access the .netns/N directories for all it's child
namespaces.
But it can't, and /proc/net is set by the kernel. So the <id> can't be
an issue for any checkpoint/restart except htat of the whole system, and
of course on whole-system resume we have no <id> collision worries.
So userspace can't do anything with <id>, so there is no reason to worry
about it becoming another namespace?
Right?
thanks,
-serge
> Can you try this approach by capturing a struct pid instead of an id
> in a new global namespace?
>
> In particular the pid of the process that creates the pid namespace.
> Like we do with setsid.
>
> I think the implementation difficulty should be about the same, but
> it will allow us something that works cleanly in the cases of
> migration and nested namespaces. As well as not adding an unnecessary
> special case with init_net and visibility.
>
> Eric
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-28 21:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-28 15:46 Pavel Emelyanov
2008-02-28 15:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add an id to struct net Pavel Emelyanov
2008-02-28 15:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] Make /proc/net a symlink and drop proc shadows Pavel Emelyanov
2008-02-28 19:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix /proc/net in presence of net namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2008-02-28 21:17 ` serge [this message]
2008-02-28 22:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-02-29 3:17 ` serge
2008-02-29 8:16 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-02-29 15:38 ` serge
2008-02-29 7:58 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-02 2:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-02 2:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-03 9:07 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-04 22:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-05 9:43 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-02-29 7:44 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-02-29 7:42 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-02 2:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-03 8:52 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-04 22:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
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