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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: rfc, leader_pid_type()
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:15:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080318221552.GA143@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m18x0fvh5d.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

On 03/18, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> writes:
> 
> > Eric, Pavel.
> >
> > Without tasklist lock held, task_tgid/task_pgrp/task_session can return the
> > bogus NULL. Note that the last 2 can return NULL even if task == current.
> >
> > What do you think if we add yet another helper?
> 
> My current inclination is this places the cost for de_thread in the
> wrong place.  exec on a threaded binary should be rare.
> Any chance we can make de_thread rcu safe?
> 
> We are very close.
> 
> It would take a double check but I believe all we need to do is to
> modify detach_pid to remove link->pid.  This of course messes up
> pid_alive but otherwise we should be ok if we have a big fat comment.

Not sure I understand... detach_pid(type) already sets

	task->pids[type].pid = NULL;

> We might need to replace the detach_pid, attach_pid sequence in
> __set_special_pids with an optimized sequence like transfer_pid
> call it replace_pid where we guarantee there is always a valid pid
> pointer in the group_leader.

OK... I think you are right... good point.

> It just feels wrong to me to put cost (and worse complexity) for
> handling the very rare cases in much more common code paths. 

Absolutely agreed.

> > Yes, we already have a lot helpers... The one potential user is
> > check_kill_permission(), but it can live without it.
> 
> I think it is worth removing the pain of using de_thread if we can.

Agreed, but how? de_thread() must remove the old leader from
->pids[type].node before it does release_task(leader).

(i do remember your idea to _not_ switch ->group_leader on exec,
 it solves sooo many problems...)

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-19 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-18 15:38 Oleg Nesterov
     [not found] ` <m18x0fvh5d.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
2008-03-18 22:15   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
     [not found]     ` <m13aqnvdnk.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
2008-03-19  0:31       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-19 14:36         ` Oleg Nesterov

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