From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
nigel@nigel.suspend2.net,
Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:40:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803210040.33982.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080320232205.GF17431@elf.ucw.cz>
On Friday, 21 of March 2008, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Thu 2008-03-20 19:01:56, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> Well, I've been saying that for I-don't-remember-how-long: on my box, if you
> > > > > >> use S5 instead of entering S4, the fan doesn't work correctly after the
> > > > > >> resume. Plain and simple.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Perhaps there's a problem with our ACPI drivers that causes this to happen,
> > > > > >> but I have no idea what that can be at the moment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMO it would be worthwhile to track this down. It's a clear indication
> > > > > > that something is wrong somewhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could it be connected with the way the boot kernel hands control over
> > > > > > to the image kernel? Presumably ACPI isn't prepared to deal with that
> > > > > > sort of thing during a boot from S5. It would have to be fooled into
> > > > > > thinking the two kernels were one and the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > It should be easy to test if it is a hand over problem, by turning off
> > > > > the laptop by placing it in S5 (shutdown -h now) and then booting same
> > > > > kernel again.
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to help with testing.
> > > >
> > > > I believe ACPI is simply getting confused by us overwriting memory
> > > > with that from old image. I don't see how you can emulate it with
> > > > shutdown.
> > >
> > > Well, in fact ACPI has something called the NVS memory, which we're supposed
> > > to restore during the resume and which we're not doing. The problem may be
> > > related to this.
> >
> > No, it can't be. ACPI won't expect the NVS memory to be restored
> > following an S5-shutdown. In fact, as far as ACPI is concerned,
> > resuming from an S5-type hibernation should not be considered a resume
> > at all but just an ordinary reboot.
I agree here.
> > All ACPI-related memory areas in the boot kernel should be passed directly
> > through to the image kernel.
However, the image kernel is supposed to restore the NVS area (from the
image) before executing _WAK.
> How can we pass interpretter state? I do not think we do this kind of
> passing.
The interpreter state is passed withing the image. The platform state is not.
> If it was enough to pass some static area, we could just mark it
> nosave...
>
> Len: Is ACPI AML permitted to allocate memory (like in ACPI_ALLOC or
> something)? Could we easily identify BIOS data so we could mark them
> nosave?
This wouldn't work even if we could (at least on x86-64).
In fact I'm going to remove the 'nosave' section in the future (another
thing on the todo list).
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-20 23:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-06 3:13 Huang, Ying
2008-03-11 21:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-11 21:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-11 23:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12 0:09 ` david
2008-03-12 2:14 ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12 18:53 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-13 0:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-11 22:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-12 2:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12 2:26 ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-11 23:24 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-11 23:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-12 1:55 ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12 15:01 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-12 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-13 0:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-13 17:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-13 23:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-14 1:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <m1prtsug2e.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
2008-03-18 23:52 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-19 0:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 2:33 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <m1ve3jtmxk.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
2008-03-19 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-19 19:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 10:40 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-20 22:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 23:01 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-20 23:22 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-20 23:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-03-21 0:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21 0:52 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-21 22:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-22 16:21 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-22 17:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 20:49 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-22 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-14 22:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 23:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 20:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 21:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-14 20:41 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-05-14 23:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12 8:57 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-12 0:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-03-12 1:45 ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12 2:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-03-12 6:54 ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12 19:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-14 8:03 ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-21 19:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-03-25 7:25 ` Huang, Ying
2008-03-12 19:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-04-09 9:34 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-09 12:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 16:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 17:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-14 20:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-15 2:32 ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15 20:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-16 1:48 ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16 1:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-16 2:08 ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-16 12:13 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-15 5:41 ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15 18:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-16 0:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-16 1:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-16 1:55 ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-27 7:27 ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-27 22:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-05-28 1:35 ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-14 22:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-14 23:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 22:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 23:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-16 12:18 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-16 14:20 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-05-15 1:42 ` Huang, Ying
2008-05-15 19:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-15 14:14 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-05-15 20:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-05-15 21:07 ` Alan Stern
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