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From: serge@hallyn.com
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: sukadev@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	serue@us.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/7] Clone PTS namespace
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:16:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080409191634.GA25220@vino.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47FD046C.6070804@zytor.com>

Quoting H. Peter Anvin (hpa@zytor.com):
> sukadev@us.ibm.com wrote:
>> We want to provide isolation between containers, meaning PTYs in container
>> C1 should not be accessible to processes in C2 (unless C2 is an ancestor).
>
> Yes, I certainly can understand the desire for isolation.  That wasn't what 
> my question was about.
>
>> The other reason for this in the longer term is for checkpoint/restart.
>> When restarting an application we want to make sure that the PTY indices
>> it was using is available and isolated.
>
> OK, this would be the motivation for index isolation.
>
>> A complete device-namespace could solve this, but IIUC, is being planned
>> in the longer term. We are hoping this would provide the isolation in the
>> near-term without being too intrusive or impeding the implementation of
>> the device namespace.
>
> I'm just worried about the accumulation of what feels like ad hoc 
> namespaces, causing a very large combination matrix, a lot of which don't 
> make sense.

Hmm, if we were to just call this CLONE_NEWDEV, would that (a) make
sense and (b) suitably address your (certainly valid) concern?

Basically for now CLONE_NEWDEV wouldn't yet be fully implemented, only
unsharing unix98 ptys...

-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-09 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-08 21:53 sukadev
2008-04-08 21:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7]: Propagate error code from devpts_pty_new sukadev
2008-04-08 21:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7]: Factor out PTY index allocation sukadev
2008-04-08 21:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7]: Enable multiple mounts of /dev/pts sukadev
2008-04-08 21:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7]: Allow mknod of ptmx and tty in devpts sukadev
2008-04-08 22:00 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7]: Implement get_pts_ns() and put_pts_ns() sukadev
2008-04-08 22:00 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7]: Determine pts_ns from a pty's inode sukadev
2008-04-08 22:00 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7]: Enable cloning PTY namespaces sukadev
2008-04-09  0:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] Clone PTS namespace H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-09 16:23   ` sukadev
2008-04-09 18:01     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-09 19:16       ` serge [this message]
2008-04-09 22:38         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-09 22:15   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-10  1:59     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-10  7:36       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-10 16:44         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-10 20:58           ` sukadev
2008-04-22 14:25         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-22 18:53           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-23 14:36             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-23 17:57               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-23 18:49                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-25 19:21                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-25 19:47                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-26 13:02                       ` Serge E. Hallyn

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