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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Meelis Roos <mroos@linux.ee>
Cc: Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: file offset corruption on 32-bit machines?
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:55:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200804101555.58643.mhocko@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOC.4.64.0804081101430.28938@math.ut.ee>

[Adding fsdevel list]

On Tuesday 08 April 2008 10:05:47 am Meelis Roos wrote:
> Jeff Robertson analyzes the behaviour of different operating systems'
> 64-bit file offset implementation and concludes that on 32-bit
> machines, Linux and Solaris lack any locking to keep the two 32-bit
> halves in sync and this could cause rare file offset corruption.
>
> http://jeffr-tech.livejournal.com/21014.html

AFAICS, this race is theoretically possible, but it is very hard (almost 
impossible) to trigger with a sane file usage pattern. 
Note that you have to access shared struct file (same file descriptor) in 
different threads which should be synchronized by caller anyway (*).

I also don't see any security implications from this race, but maybe someone 
with more knowlage about fs can see (f_pos is used at many places in the 
kernel code).

I think that it is better to live with tiny-race-on-broken-patterns rather 
than paying for synchronization which is not needed for correct paths. 

[*] file_pos_{read,write} (fs/read_write.c) are not called under lock (in 
sys_read, sys_write, ...), so even if f_pos is written atomically, you will 
be able to get races when accessing shared descriptor from different threads.
I think that POSIX states, that behavior is undefined under these conditions.

Best regards
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE LINUX s.r.o.
Lihovarska 1060/12
190 00 Praha 9    
Czech Republic 

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-10 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-08  8:05 Meelis Roos
2008-04-10 13:55 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2008-04-10 14:01   ` Jiri Kosina
2008-04-10 14:27     ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 14:31       ` Jiri Kosina
2008-04-10 14:48         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-10 15:22           ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 15:30             ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-10 15:19         ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 15:37           ` Michal Hocko
2008-04-10 15:56             ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 16:03         ` Diego Calleja
2008-04-10 16:15           ` Jan Kara
2008-04-11 19:26       ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 16:25         ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 14:31     ` Michal Hocko
2008-04-10 14:35       ` Jiri Kosina
2008-04-10 14:11   ` Martin Mares
2008-04-10 15:12     ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 15:14     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-10 15:21       ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-10 15:28       ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 15:33   ` Andi Kleen
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     [not found]         ` <ah7vN-7Wz-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-11 12:24           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-11 13:55             ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-11 16:59               ` Bryan Henderson
2008-04-11 17:15                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-11 21:29                   ` Bryan Henderson
2008-04-12  8:48                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 16:20               ` Jan Kara
2008-04-14 16:22                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-14 16:53                   ` Jan Kara
2008-04-14 16:54                     ` Alan Cox
2008-04-14 18:34                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-14 17:06                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-14 19:03                       ` Jan Kara
2008-04-14 19:29                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-14 19:42                           ` Jan Kara
2008-04-14 19:45                             ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15  8:57                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-15 15:32                             ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 17:34                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-15 18:24                                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 19:12                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-15 19:49                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 20:06                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-15 20:28                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-16  8:15                                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-16  8:20                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-16 10:54                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-04-16 13:57                                             ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 20:29                                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 22:11                                           ` Bryan Henderson
2008-04-16  9:40                                             ` Jamie Lokier

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