From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758366AbYDMXRX (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:17:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753138AbYDMXRN (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:17:13 -0400 Received: from ogre.sisk.pl ([217.79.144.158]:37973 "EHLO ogre.sisk.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753067AbYDMXRL (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:17:11 -0400 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Nigel Cunningham Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 8) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:17:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) Cc: benh@kernel.crashing.org, Greg KH , pm list , ACPI Devel Maling List , Alan Stern , Len Brown , LKML , Alexey Starikovskiy , David Brownell , Pavel Machek , Oliver Neukum , Jesse Barnes , Andrew Morton References: <200804040111.15255.rjw@sisk.pl> <1208126822.6958.63.camel@pasglop> <1208128289.29577.25.camel@nigel-laptop> In-Reply-To: <1208128289.29577.25.camel@nigel-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804140117.34554.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Monday, 14 of April 2008, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > Hi Rafael etc. Hi, > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:47 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > Well, I'm not sure and I'm not going to introduce the change right now, after > > > the paches have been included in -mm. > > > > > > That would require quite some changes in the core code that I'd prefer to > > > avoid for now. We can do something like this in a separate patch series after > > > the present one settles down a bit. > > > > I disagree. > > > > Doing it later would introduce yet another major semantic change. > > > > I think we should get it right now. There's no hurry in pushing things > > especially if they aren't quite right. > > > > The ability for prepare() callbacks to sync with userland, > > request_firmware, etc... is an important feature that's been needed for > > some time imho. > > > > Ben. > > I agree. These calls have already been changing far too often in > mainline. I know it's all been necessary but please, can we try to make > one set of changes and just get it right this time? Sorry, what exactly has been changing too often? Device suspend callbacks?? They haven't changed since pm_message_t was introduced. Thanks, Rafael