From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761978AbYDNU40 (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:56:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754410AbYDNU4P (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:56:15 -0400 Received: from ogre.sisk.pl ([217.79.144.158]:45285 "EHLO ogre.sisk.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754401AbYDNU4O (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:56:14 -0400 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: benh@kernel.crashing.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 8) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:56:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) Cc: Pavel Machek , Greg KH , pm list , ACPI Devel Maling List , Alan Stern , Len Brown , LKML , Alexey Starikovskiy , David Brownell , Oliver Neukum , Nigel Cunningham , Jesse Barnes , Andrew Morton References: <200804040111.15255.rjw@sisk.pl> <20080414105522.GA4716@ucw.cz> <1208205952.6958.174.camel@pasglop> In-Reply-To: <1208205952.6958.174.camel@pasglop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804142256.03514.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Monday, 14 of April 2008, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:55 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > On Mon 2008-04-14 08:47:02, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > > > Well, I'm not sure and I'm not going to introduce the change right now, after > > > > the paches have been included in -mm. > > > > > > > > That would require quite some changes in the core code that I'd prefer to > > > > avoid for now. We can do something like this in a separate patch series after > > > > the present one settles down a bit. > > > > > > I disagree. > > > > > > Doing it later would introduce yet another major semantic change. > > > > 'allow load_firmware from prepare that was not allowed before' is not 'major'. > > Having user space fully operating is major. Please tell me what exactly is wrong with doing things that depend on the user space being available from notifiers. Thanks, Rafael