From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762775AbYDPMNO (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:13:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758296AbYDPMMy (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:12:54 -0400 Received: from ogre.sisk.pl ([217.79.144.158]:56031 "EHLO ogre.sisk.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758246AbYDPMMx (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:12:53 -0400 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Willy Tarreau , David Newall Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:13:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) Cc: Michael Kerrisk , James Morris , Al Viro , Andrew Morton , david@lang.hm, Stephen Clark , Evgeniy Polyakov , Tilman Schmidt , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Mark Lord , David Miller , jesper.juhl@gmail.com, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, jeff@garzik.org, linux-kernel , git@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen References: <47FEADCB.7070104@rtr.ca> <480565D3.6000100@davidnewall.com> <20080416042920.GB25188@1wt.eu> In-Reply-To: <20080416042920.GB25188@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804161413.05869.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wednesday, 16 of April 2008, Willy Tarreau wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:04:59PM +0930, David Newall wrote: > > Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > Well, even if someone introduces bugs relatively frequently, but then also > > > works with the reporters and fixes the bugs timely, it's about okay IMO. > > > > > This really is not okay. Even if bugs are fixed a version or two later, > > the impact those bugs have on users makes the system look bad and drives > > them away. We do not, I believe, want Linux to top the list for "most > > bugs". It's unprofessional, unreliable and quite undesirable. > > that's what -rc are for, and it's unprofessional to use them in production :-) Exactly. And BTW, by saying "timely" I meant "in -rc" or "before the next major release". Thanks, Rafael