From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:39:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080416153914.GB17852@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080416083219.0f54a22b@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
* Arjan van de Ven (arjan@infradead.org) wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:48:14 -0400
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca> wrote:
>
> > * Arjan van de Ven (arjan@infradead.org) wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:00:09 -0400
> > > Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > If we want to support NMI context and have the ability to
> > > > > > > instrument preemptable code without too much headache, we
> > > > > > > must insure that every modification will leave the code in a
> > > > > > > "correct" state and that we do not grow the size of any
> > > > > > > reachable instruction. Also, we must insure gcc did not put
> > > > > > > code between these instructions. Modifying non-relocatable
> > > > > > > instructions would also be a pain, since we would have to
> > > > > > > deal with instruction pointer relocation in the breakpoint
> > > > > > > code when the code modification is being done.
> > > > >
> > > > > you also need to make sure no cpu is executing that code ever..
> > > > > but you already deal with that right?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > By "insure that every modification will leave the code in a
> > > > "correct" state", I mean that at any given time before, during or
> > > > after the code modification, if an NMI comes on any CPU and try
> > > > to run the modified code, it should have a valid version of the
> > > > code to execute. Does it make more sense ?
> > >
> > > I understand your words. My concern is that I don't quite
> > > understand how you guarantee that you'll not be executing the code
> > > you're modifying. Just saying "it's consistent before and after"
> > > sounds nice but probably isn't enough to be safe.
> > >
> > Ah, I see. I insert a breakpoint and execute a bypass rather than the
> > code being modified. I only put back the 1st instruction byte after
> > the rest of the instruction has been modified.
>
> sorry but I'm not convinced that that is safe without a real exclusion mechanism.
I'll post the patchset soon. Please have a look at the rather lengthy
comment in arch/x86/kernel/immediate.c for details. I'll be glad to
answer any question that remains.
Mathieu
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Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-16 15:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-15 11:50 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Debugging infrastructure for Futexes using Markers K. Prasad
2008-04-15 11:53 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c K. Prasad
2008-04-15 11:55 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] Marker handler for the probes in futex file K. Prasad
2008-04-15 12:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-15 12:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 12:50 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-15 16:13 ` K. Prasad
2008-04-15 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-15 13:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 13:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 14:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 14:21 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-15 14:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 16:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 21:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 13:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-16 13:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 14:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 14:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-16 14:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 15:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 15:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2008-04-16 20:10 ` text_poke, vmap and vmalloc on x86_64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 21:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 13:25 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 19:19 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-17 20:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-19 12:13 ` K. Prasad
2008-04-19 21:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-18 6:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-15 15:52 ` K. Prasad
2008-04-16 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 22:02 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-18 6:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-18 14:29 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-19 12:28 ` K. Prasad
2008-04-19 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-19 18:03 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-19 18:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-19 18:48 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-22 17:50 ` Nicholas Miell
2008-04-19 14:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-19 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-18 10:44 ` Andrew Morton
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