From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756749AbYDXMKH (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:10:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752144AbYDXMJx (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:09:53 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:44854 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752063AbYDXMJw (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:09:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:35:41 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Tejun Heo Cc: Sergei Shtylyov , Jeff Garzik , Adrian Bunk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] select ATA_SFF Message-ID: <20080424123541.09e5ef96@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <480DEB1F.5060500@gmail.com> References: <20080421213147.GH2633@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <480DE3C4.5@ru.mvista.com> <480DE6F5.8060403@gmail.com> <480DE9E8.2070809@ru.mvista.com> <480DEB1F.5060500@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:41:51 +0900 Tejun Heo wrote: > Sergei Shtylyov wrote: > >>> Jeff, Tejun, what "sff" in the file name actually means? Isn't it > >>> strange that the drivers lacking DMA support or not really compliant > >>> with SFF-8038i have to link with this file? > > > >> Maybe it should be libata-tf and libata-bmdma, but sff (sans bmdma) > >> and bmdma is acceptable, hopefully, right? > > > > What's sff sans bmdma? > > Supposed to be TF interface. IIRC, the SFF term was first from Alan > although it's entirely possible that I misunderstood it and used it in > the wrong way. Alan, can you please clear up the confusion? The SFF/Intel spec is for PCI IDE (BMDMA or otherwise), so it covers and defines all the common bits of the IDE interface on PCI (and in defining the legacy interface conveniently documents the extended ST-412 interface used by ATA and "pre-ATA" IDE/EIDE controllers). Alan