From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752350AbYEANuH (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 09:50:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754006AbYEANt5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 09:49:57 -0400 Received: from caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:49010 "EHLO caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753457AbYEANt4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 09:49:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:49:55 -0400 To: David Newall Cc: Linus Torvalds , David Miller , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Slow DOWN, please!!! Message-ID: <20080501134955.GA6957@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20080429.211835.130816277.davem@davemloft.net> <48186E57.5070805@davidnewall.com> <4818B8A7.4000902@davidnewall.com> <4818C0BF.5020002@davidnewall.com> <4818C571.8040609@davidnewall.com> <481947AF.4090101@davidnewall.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <481947AF.4090101@davidnewall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 02:01:43PM +0930, David Newall wrote: [snip] > Stop telling the world that 2.6.25 is ready for them when you know it's > not. It's now ready for beta testing, and no more. Is 2.6.24 ready for > the world yet? There are still problems being reported with it. If a kernel release works without problems on 9999 out of 10000 machines, is it stable? How few specific combinations of hardware are there allowed to be with any problems before you can call it stable? How do you know a problem you see wasn't tested by 500 people none of whom had any problems because none of them had the hardware you do? -- Len Sorensen