From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756111AbYECWI6 (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 May 2008 18:08:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754727AbYECWIv (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 May 2008 18:08:51 -0400 Received: from smtp6.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.153.40]:33334 "EHLO smtp6.pp.htv.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754315AbYECWIu (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 May 2008 18:08:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 01:07:52 +0300 From: Adrian Bunk To: Sam Ravnborg Cc: Ingo Molnar , Dmitry Torokhov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Ingo, no more kconfig patches Message-ID: <20080503220752.GW5838@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> References: <20080430170125.ZZRA012@mailhub.coreip.homeip.net> <20080430211317.GA24633@elte.hu> <20080430230100.GK29330@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080501025234.GE27574@elte.hu> <20080501115923.GX29330@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080503191445.GF5292@elte.hu> <20080503202416.GR5838@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080503210300.GA10979@elte.hu> <20080503212429.GT5838@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080503213822.GA24283@uranus.ravnborg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080503213822.GA24283@uranus.ravnborg.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 11:38:22PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 12:24:29AM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 11:03:00PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > > * Adrian Bunk wrote: > > >... > > > > > As Sam said it, fixing that Kconfig design bug would be "nice" - but > > > > > unfortunately the Kconfig subsystem is not actively developed > > > > > anymore. > > > > > > > > Roman is still active. > > > > > > great, does this mean we'll see fixes for select's misbehavior, along > > > the lines of Sam's suggestions? > > > > In the case of the problem here it would have turned one problem into > > another, and Roman's patch is the correct solution no matter whether > > you change the semantics of select or not. > > Hi Adrian > It would be nice to know what was wrong with my suggestion. > You have done your share of kconfig patches so you have a good grip > on the problems we face. > So any input on how we can improve kconfig so we can actually provide > what people often expects or requests or need would be nice. > > I have so far not done any hacking on the core of the backend of > kconfig but if I one day find more than one hour in row where I can do > some kernel stuff I may actually try it out. > And then it would be nice to have a sketch ready how to solve the issues. > > I would though request you to start a new mail thread for this and > include both linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org and Roman Zippel in the loop. If you've sent a suggestion that included a description of the exact semantics you want to implement I must have missed it. Can you send me a pointer or a description of the semantics? I'll then have a look. > Sam cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed