From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
sam@ravnborg.org, viro@ftp.linux.org.uk, hpa@zytor.com,
Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc] the kernel workflow & trivial "global -> static" patches (was: Re: [2.6 patch] make sched_feat_{names,open} static)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 00:45:21 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080505214521.GE1544@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080505142604.389f05c6.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 02:26:04PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 00:07:12 +0300
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 01:42:52PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Mon, 5 May 2008 22:19:06 +0200
> > > Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Firstly, the practical problem: today "make namespacecheck" emits way
> > > > too many false positives even on an allyesconfig build
> > >
> > > We don't actually care about what comes out of `make namespacecheck'. We
> > > care about the _difference_ in its output when a patch is applied.
> > >
> > > So a script which reports on what changes a particular patch has upon
> > > namespacecheck output might be the way to go. If it is fast enough then it
> > > can be run on a per-patch basis alongside checkpatch.
> >
> > "make namespacecheck" works on the binary objects.
> >
> > - touching header files can result in a complete rebuild
> > - if a patch alters which objects get built you should start with
> > a clean object dir
> >
> > The question is therefore basically whether a complete rebuild of an
> > all*config kernel is fast enough for you...
> >
>
> That would be quite a bother.
>
> I do think that we should aim to get these things fixed _before_ the
> offending patches get into mainline. It's dopey to append a sprinkle of
> fixups against any particular patch after it has hit mainline when we have
> the tools to fix those things up beforehand.
>
> And it'd help to educate submitters to check their own stuff. So when
> these post-facto fixups are prepared then it is good to rub people's
> noses^W^W^Wgently remind submitters about the problems in their work.
> Probably you are already doing this.
>
> Actually, we could perhaps do a lot of this at the checkpatch level? If
> checkpatch sees a global symbol being added and the same patch does not add
> references to that symbol from a different file then whine. Obviously this
> will generate false positives but that's OK.
Not sure what is possible at the checkpatch level.
Adding -Wmissing-prototypes to the CFLAGS (which was my original
motivation for doing these patches) would help much, but it's still a
long road until I can propose it without being lynched for the warnings
it still generates...
Or teach people to use sparse?
After all, this thread erupted on a patch against kernel/sched.c
that fixes something sparse also warns about.
I just tried running sparse against this file - looks scary...
cu
Adrian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-05 21:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-05 18:29 [2.6 patch] make sched_feat_{names,open} static Adrian Bunk
2008-05-05 20:19 ` [rfc] the kernel workflow & trivial "global -> static" patches (was: Re: [2.6 patch] make sched_feat_{names,open} static) Ingo Molnar
2008-05-05 20:40 ` Randy.Dunlap
2008-05-05 21:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-05 23:19 ` david
2008-05-05 23:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-05 23:45 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-06 3:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-06 5:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-05 20:42 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-05 21:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-05 21:26 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-05 21:45 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-05-05 21:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-06 7:46 ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-05-05 21:02 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-06 0:21 ` [rfc] the kernel workflow & trivial "global -> static" patches Andi Kleen
2008-05-06 6:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-06 11:13 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-06 11:25 ` Adrian Bunk
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