From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce down_nowait()
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 01:19:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080521011926.18bf8e81.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080521080452.GA1305@infradead.org>
On Wed, 21 May 2008 04:04:53 -0400 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:29:03PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Actually, I don't thing down_nowait() is a terribly good name, because it
> > doesn't tell the reader anything about what to expect from the return
> > value. Does a non-zero return mean that down_wait() acquired the lock,
> > or does it not? Something like down_try() would be better, because if
> > it returns 1 we can say "ah, the trying succeeded".
>
> Actually, it does,
No it doesn't. If anything, a "true" return from something called
"down_nowait()" means "I didn't wait!". Or something.
> and the kerneldoc comment explains it in every detail
> for those who need to read it up.
Shouldn't be necessary to look it up. By that argument we could
call it eat_at_joes() and sell the advertising space.
> Then again semaphores and on their
> way out, and I really hate the kind of churn this thing introduces at
> this moment. Please let all the semaphore to completion/mutex/other
> construct change settle for a while, and with a little chance this gem
> will just go away entirely.
Well, we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
The number of down_trylocks in rc3 is 51 and the number of
down_trylocks and down_nowaits in -mm is 47. So progress is pretty
glacial.
<wonders why -mm still has seven down_trlyocks>
<oh>
./kernel/semaphore.c
./kernel/mutex.c
./include/linux/semaphore.h
Anyway, yes, I agree that the whole effort is a bit dubious and that
the time could be better directed to semaphore eliminations.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-21 8:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-21 6:00 Rusty Russell
2008-05-21 6:29 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 7:56 ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-21 17:04 ` Daniel Walker
2008-05-22 8:56 ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-22 15:48 ` Daniel Walker
2008-05-23 0:52 ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-21 8:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-21 8:19 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-05-21 12:09 ` Rusty Russell
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