From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S936411AbYEUSuj (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 May 2008 14:50:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933786AbYEUSuT (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 May 2008 14:50:19 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:53312 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933095AbYEUSuQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 May 2008 14:50:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 11:49:17 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Theodore Tso Cc: Pavel Machek , Chris Mason , Eric Sandeen , Andi Kleen , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes Message-Id: <20080521114917.60bf42c7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20080521182949.GL8581@mit.edu> References: <482DDA56.6000301@redhat.com> <20080518211140.b29bee30.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <200805191316.27551.chris.mason@oracle.com> <200805191439.36577.chris.mason@oracle.com> <20080521112224.GD5028@ucw.cz> <20080521110324.668048e0.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080521182949.GL8581@mit.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.5; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:29:49 -0400 Theodore Tso wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:03:24AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > afaik there is no need to enable this feature if the machine (actually > > the disks) are on a UPS, yes? > > Yes, as long as you're confident that there won't be a kernel > bug/regression causing a lockup while the server is under severe > memory pressure while doing lots of fsync's, file creations, renames, > etc. That won't cause corruption, will it? The problem is purely one of "data which the disk acked didn't make it to platter"? > And as long as your 100% confident that UPS's will never fail, > janitors will never accidentally hit the Emergency Power Office > switch, and so on. Well. The product of two very small numbers is...