From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758779AbYEWUL3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 May 2008 16:11:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753922AbYEWULW (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 May 2008 16:11:22 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:34149 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752470AbYEWULV (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 May 2008 16:11:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:29:08 -0700 From: Arjan van de Ven To: Adrian Bunk Cc: Natalie Protasevich , Bosko Radivojevic , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Number of bugs - statistics Message-ID: <20080523112908.19f9413d@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <20080523165055.GC28257@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> References: <20080522144114.GC27301@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080522075135.4933161c@infradead.org> <20080522155425.GA2727@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <32209efe0805220920h1a2a0089t82b0173bbe239137@mail.gmail.com> <20080522165008.GB2727@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080522151834.03f2790f@infradead.org> <20080523090940.GG2727@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080523071157.3cfdc03a@infradead.org> <20080523165055.GC28257@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> Organization: Intel X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 23 May 2008 19:50:55 +0300 Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 07:11:57AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Fri, 23 May 2008 12:09:40 +0300 > > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > > > > > And in case anyone says "not forwarded distribution bugs aren't > > > our problem": > > > That's a nice example, since in this case a distribuion suddenly > > > starting to agressively forwarding their bugs might contribute to > > > making the kernel better, but might also totally ruin the numbers > > > in any statistics. > > > > Fedora gets less than 1000 bugs per release (so 6 month window). > > That's... peanuts. > > 2000 kernel bugs per year? it's going down; 750-ish for the last few releases (see http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/116718.html ) > > Then Fedora alone gets roughly as many kernel bugs as the kernel > Bugzilla. but kernel bugzilla is "only" a last resort, while fedora bugzilla is a first point of contact. I'd rate a kernel.org bugzilla bug to be 3x a fedora bz bug in terms of value (eg less dupes, it's not support requests but actual bugs etc etc). > > >... > > We are tracking over 3000 bugs per WEEK via other channels. > >... > > What exactly are you measuring with this "3000 bugs" number? Oopses and places where the kernel goes WARN_ON(). (the oops:warning ratio is roughly 1:2 to 1:3)