From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759394AbYEWUdu (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 May 2008 16:33:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756695AbYEWUdk (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 May 2008 16:33:40 -0400 Received: from smtp5.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.153.39]:49656 "EHLO smtp5.pp.htv.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756801AbYEWUdj (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 May 2008 16:33:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 23:31:12 +0300 From: Adrian Bunk To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: Natalie Protasevich , Bosko Radivojevic , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Number of bugs - statistics Message-ID: <20080523203112.GA4886@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> References: <20080522144114.GC27301@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080522075135.4933161c@infradead.org> <20080522155425.GA2727@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <32209efe0805220920h1a2a0089t82b0173bbe239137@mail.gmail.com> <20080522165008.GB2727@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080522151834.03f2790f@infradead.org> <20080523090940.GG2727@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080523071157.3cfdc03a@infradead.org> <20080523165055.GC28257@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080523112908.19f9413d@infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080523112908.19f9413d@infradead.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:29:08AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2008 19:50:55 +0300 > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 07:11:57AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 May 2008 12:09:40 +0300 > > > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > And in case anyone says "not forwarded distribution bugs aren't > > > > our problem": > > > > That's a nice example, since in this case a distribuion suddenly > > > > starting to agressively forwarding their bugs might contribute to > > > > making the kernel better, but might also totally ruin the numbers > > > > in any statistics. > > > > > > Fedora gets less than 1000 bugs per release (so 6 month window). > > > That's... peanuts. > > > > 2000 kernel bugs per year? > > it's going down; 750-ish for the last few releases > > (see http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/116718.html ) It's a bit suspicious that the "Total number of bugs filed across all packages" also went down by quite some amount. Are recent Fedora kernels less buggy or do less people file bugs since everyone now uses Ubuntu? >... > > > We are tracking over 3000 bugs per WEEK via other channels. > > >... > > > > What exactly are you measuring with this "3000 bugs" number? > > Oopses and places where the kernel goes WARN_ON(). > (the oops:warning ratio is roughly 1:2 to 1:3) Counting 2248 times the same WARN_ON triggered as 2248 distinct bugs is complete bullshit. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed