From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
video4linux-list@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] video4linux: Push down the BKL
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:50:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080527125041.0fc28fd4@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080527155942.7693c360@gaivota>
On Tue, 27 May 2008 15:59:42 -0300
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:37:55 -0600
> Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:31:00 -0300
> > Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Since the other methods don't explicitly call BKL (and, AFAIK,
> > > kernel open handler don't call it neither), if a program 1 is
> > > opening a device and initializing some data, and a program 2
> > > starts doing ioctl, interrupting program 1 execution in the
> > > middle of a data initialization procedure, you may have a race
> > > condition, since some devices initialize some device global data
> > > during open [1].
> >
> > In fact, 2.6.26 and prior kernels *do* acquire the BKL on open (for
> > char devices) - that's the behavior that the bkl-removal tree is
> > there to do away with. So, for example, I've pushed that
> > acquisition down into video_open() instead.
> >
> > So, for now, open() is serialized against ioctl() in video
> > drivers. As soon as you take the BKL out of ioctl(), though, that
> > won't happen, unless the mutex you use is also acquired in the open
> > path.
>
> Ok.
>
> A few drivers seem to be almost read to work without BKL.
>
> For example, em28xx has already a lock at the operations that change
> values at "dev" struct, including open() method. However, since the
> lock is not called at get operations, it needs to be fixed. I would
> also change it from mutex to a read/write semaphore, since two (or
> more) get operations can safely happen in parallel.
>
\
please don't use rw/sems just because there MIGHT be parallel.
THey're more expensive than mutexes by quite a bit and you get a lot
less checking from lockdep. They make sense for very specific, very
read biased, contended cases. But please don't use them "just
because"...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-27 19:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-22 21:37 Alan Cox
2008-05-23 2:08 ` Andy Walls
2008-05-23 6:16 ` Hans Verkuil
2008-05-23 6:28 ` Hans Verkuil
2008-05-26 16:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-23 9:09 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-26 16:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-26 16:46 ` Hans Verkuil
2008-05-26 21:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-23 13:56 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-23 15:39 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-23 16:09 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-23 18:58 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-23 19:05 ` Hans Verkuil
2008-05-25 23:46 ` Mike Isely
2008-05-26 16:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-26 20:23 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-26 21:10 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-26 22:01 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-27 13:10 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-27 15:41 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-27 16:31 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-27 16:37 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-27 18:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-27 19:26 ` Devin Heitmueller
2008-05-27 21:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-27 21:22 ` Devin Heitmueller
2008-05-27 23:48 ` Andy Walls
2008-05-28 0:46 ` Devin Heitmueller
2008-05-28 2:37 ` Andy Walls
2008-05-28 2:47 ` Devin Heitmueller
2008-05-28 8:34 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-28 6:13 ` Hans Verkuil
2008-05-27 19:50 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-05-27 20:24 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-05-27 18:14 ` Alan Cox
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