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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Isaku Yamahata <yamahata@valinux.co.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	xen-ia64-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@eu.citrix.com>,
	Keir Fraser <Keir.Fraser@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen: Use wmb instead of rmb in xen_evtchn_do_upcall().
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:15:53 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200806101815.53729.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <484E33F1.5000503@goop.org>

On Tuesday 10 June 2008 17:57, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 June 2008 17:35, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
> >> This patch is ported one from 534:77db69c38249 of linux-2.6.18-xen.hg.
> >> Use wmb instead of rmb to enforce ordering between
> >> evtchn_upcall_pending and evtchn_pending_sel stores
> >> in xen_evtchn_do_upcall().
> >
> > There are a whole load of places in the kernel that should be using
> > smp_ variants of memory barriers. This seemed to me like one of them,
> > but I could be wrong.
>
> No, it needs to be an unconditional barrier.  This is synchronizing with
> the hypervisor - even if the kernel is compiled UP, the SMP hypervisor
> may be testing/setting the events pending bits from another (physical) cpu.

OK. What you *really* want is smp_*mb_even_if_compiled_for_UP() ;)
That is, a small set of primitives that are compiled with CONFIG_SMP
(and given some xxx_ prefix to distinguish).

IO barriers are probably the best thing you can use for the moment.


> > Also, if you do that can you get rid of the ifdef? If it really *really*
> > mattered, we could introduce smp_mb before/after xchg... but if you
> > use smp_wmb anyway then it definitely does not matter because that is a
> > noop on x86.
>
> Yes, I'd like to lose the #ifdef.  Unfortunately I think putting a
> "lock; addl $0,0(%%esp)" style barrier had a measurable negative
> performance impact, but I may be thinking of something else.  I don't
> know how expensive sfence is.
>
> The alternative is to make ia64's xchg a barrier (or to add a barrier
> variant of it).  It seems like a wart to have a cross-architecture
> function like xchg(), but then have different architectures differ in
> important details like barrier-ness.

Well, no you have to be careful. Because even if we did ask for ia64's
xchg to be a full barrier, you wouldn't get the right behaviour on UP
because it would be free to optimise that away -- those kinds of barriers
referred to in all those primitives are defined for cacheable memory and
CPU-to-CPU only...

I guess under the circumstances, leaving the ifdef there is probably
reasonable.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-10  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-10  7:35 Isaku Yamahata
2008-06-10  7:41 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-10  7:57   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-10  8:15     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-06-11  6:54       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-10  8:01   ` Isaku Yamahata
2008-06-16 21:58 Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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