From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Agner Fog <agner@agner.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ABI change for device drivers using future AVX instruction set
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:09:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080625130918.53ae744b@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4862A25C.2060703@agner.org>
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:54:04 +0200
Agner Fog <agner@agner.org> wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >Let me repeat this loud and clear:
> >It is not allowed to use floating point, SSE of AVX in device
> >drivers.
>
> Thank you for a clear answer. Re-reading the ABI:
> >A.2.4 Miscellaneous Remarks
> >Linux Kernel code is not allowed to change the x87 and SSE units.
> >If
> those are
> >changed by kernel code, they have to be restored properly before
> sleeping or leaving
> >the kernel. On preemptive kernels also more precautions may be
> >needed.
>
> This states your point, but certainly not "loud and clear" :-)
>
> This ABI statement has to be amended, however, because it is allowed
the linux kernel policy is loud and clear; this is more an OS policy as
it is a platform ABI issue. We as linux do not allow this (with the
small footnote around the raid stuff, but that has specific very
careful use). In addition, you really aren't allowed to use floating
point in the kernel period as concept, if you need it you very likely
are doing something wrong.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-25 20:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-25 15:32 Agner Fog
2008-06-25 16:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-06-25 19:54 ` Agner Fog
2008-06-25 20:09 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-06-26 1:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-27 11:31 ` Agner Fog
2008-06-27 14:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-06-28 8:05 ` Agner Fog
2008-06-28 8:10 ` David Miller
2008-06-28 11:47 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-28 15:09 ` Agner Fog
2008-06-28 15:44 ` Helge Hafting
2008-06-28 20:02 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-29 11:33 ` Avi Kivity
2008-06-29 12:21 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-29 12:31 ` Avi Kivity
2008-06-29 13:07 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-29 13:18 ` Avi Kivity
2008-06-29 13:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-29 13:29 ` Avi Kivity
2008-06-29 22:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-29 12:29 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-01 15:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-06-25 20:14 ` Alan Cox
2008-06-26 14:01 ` Andi Kleen
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