From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754593AbYGWDLR (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:11:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753179AbYGWDLE (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:11:04 -0400 Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]:18864 "EHLO agminet01.oracle.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752566AbYGWDLC (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:11:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:10:05 -0700 From: Randy Dunlap To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Stephen Rothwell , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , linux-next@vger.kernel.org, LKML Subject: Re: linux-next: circumvention and ignorance (was: Re: linux-next: Tree for July 22) Message-Id: <20080722201005.2d1081f5.randy.dunlap@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20080722184059.a58c79d7.sfr@canb.auug.org.au> Organization: Oracle Linux Eng. X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:49:30 +0200 (CEST) Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi all, > > Looking at today's http://kisskb.ellerman.id.au/kisskb/matrix/, there's > plenty of red, and not only in the linux-next division :-( > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > We are up to 105 trees (counting Linus' and 14 trees of patches pending for > > Linus' tree), more are welcome (even if they are currently empty). > > Thanks to those who have contributed, and to those who haven't, please do. > > We still see regular merging of trivially breaking patches that > apparently never have been in linux-next... > > > The ttydev tree was partially merged upstream and gained so many > > conflicts that I have temporarily dropped it. > > Worse, we're seeing things getting merged that have been known-broken in > several linux-next incarnations during the last few weeks... > > Now we have such a great thing like linux-next (thanks, Stephen! You > saved my day a lot lately), perhaps we should start making full use of > it? E.g., we don't seem to have a good method of moving build fixes into their appropriate tree/patchset. Or maybe it's just that we can't get them noticed by the appropriate people. --- ~Randy Linux Plumbers Conference, 17-19 September 2008, Portland, Oregon USA http://linuxplumbersconf.org/