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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	systemtap@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: systemtap & backward compatibility, was Re: [RFC] systemtap: begin the process of using proper kernel APIs
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:40:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080723184022.GG14846@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080723173438.GA23758@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 01:34:38PM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> Hi -
> 
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 07:54:05PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:41:37PM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> > >...
> > > In the interim (before we come up with a way of moving more
> > > kernel-coupled systemtap code into kernel.org/git), would y'all
> > > consider an arrangement?  Those of you who care about systemtap, and
> > > are intending to make an incompatible kernel/module interface change,
> > > please run the systemtap testsuite before & after.  [...]
> 
> > The number of incompatible kernel/module interface changes per
> > kernel is most likely some medium three digit number.  What you have
> > in mind is therefore not really feasible.
> 
> Do you think so, even if the historical pattern continues that only a
> small fraction of those changes actually impact systemtap?

But which are these?

All commits that either remove EXPORT_SYMBOL's or touch include/ are 
candidates would have to be checked, and that's a four digit number
of commits per kernel release.

What is not feasible is to check each of thesse commits.

> > But we have several levels of kernels that incorporate future stuff,
> > from -rc over -next to -mm, and you could implement automated runs
> > of the systemtap testsuite against the latest ones.
> 
> We do some of that already and should do more.
> 
> - FChE

cu
Adrian

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        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-23 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-15 18:33 [RFC] systemtap: begin the process of using proper kernel APIs (part1: use kprobe symbol_name/offset instead of address) James Bottomley
2008-07-16 22:40 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-16 23:03   ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17  0:05     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-17  1:49       ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 14:18         ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 16:58           ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 21:36             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-17 22:03               ` James Bottomley
2008-07-21 14:20               ` James Bottomley
     [not found]           ` <1216313914.5515.25.camel__21144.9282979176$1216314027$gmane$org@localhost.localdomain>
2008-07-17 18:30             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-17 20:12               ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 20:26                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-17 21:06                   ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 21:33                     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-17 22:03                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-22 18:00                       ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-22 18:11                         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-22 18:31                           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                           ` <1216751477.7257.115.camel__19834.5970632092$1216751567$gmane$org@twins>
2008-07-22 18:48                             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 15:04                         ` systemtap & backward compatibility, was Re: [RFC] systemtap: begin the process of using proper kernel APIs Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 15:28                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-23 15:33                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23 20:25                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
     [not found]                           ` <20080723082856.334f9c17__2909.60763018138$1216827051$gmane$org@infradead.org>
2008-07-23 16:41                             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 16:54                               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-23 17:34                                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 18:40                                   ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-07-23 22:12                               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-18  9:11 ` [RFC] systemtap: begin the process of using proper kernel APIs (part1: use kprobe symbol_name/offset instead of address) Andi Kleen
2008-07-18  9:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-18 10:31     ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 10:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-18 10:52         ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 13:02     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-18 13:07       ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 13:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-18 13:28         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-18 13:35         ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 13:21       ` James Bottomley
2008-07-18 13:37         ` Frank Ch. Eigler

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