From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
systemtap@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: systemtap & backward compatibility, was Re: [RFC] systemtap: begin the process of using proper kernel APIs
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:40:22 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080723184022.GG14846@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080723173438.GA23758@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 01:34:38PM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> Hi -
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 07:54:05PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:41:37PM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> > >...
> > > In the interim (before we come up with a way of moving more
> > > kernel-coupled systemtap code into kernel.org/git), would y'all
> > > consider an arrangement? Those of you who care about systemtap, and
> > > are intending to make an incompatible kernel/module interface change,
> > > please run the systemtap testsuite before & after. [...]
>
> > The number of incompatible kernel/module interface changes per
> > kernel is most likely some medium three digit number. What you have
> > in mind is therefore not really feasible.
>
> Do you think so, even if the historical pattern continues that only a
> small fraction of those changes actually impact systemtap?
But which are these?
All commits that either remove EXPORT_SYMBOL's or touch include/ are
candidates would have to be checked, and that's a four digit number
of commits per kernel release.
What is not feasible is to check each of thesse commits.
> > But we have several levels of kernels that incorporate future stuff,
> > from -rc over -next to -mm, and you could implement automated runs
> > of the systemtap testsuite against the latest ones.
>
> We do some of that already and should do more.
>
> - FChE
cu
Adrian
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-15 18:33 [RFC] systemtap: begin the process of using proper kernel APIs (part1: use kprobe symbol_name/offset instead of address) James Bottomley
2008-07-16 22:40 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-16 23:03 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 0:05 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-17 1:49 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 14:18 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 16:58 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 21:36 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-17 22:03 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-21 14:20 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1216313914.5515.25.camel__21144.9282979176$1216314027$gmane$org@localhost.localdomain>
2008-07-17 18:30 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-17 20:12 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 20:26 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-17 21:06 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-17 21:33 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-17 22:03 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-22 18:00 ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-22 18:11 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-22 18:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <1216751477.7257.115.camel__19834.5970632092$1216751567$gmane$org@twins>
2008-07-22 18:48 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 15:04 ` systemtap & backward compatibility, was Re: [RFC] systemtap: begin the process of using proper kernel APIs Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 15:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-23 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23 20:25 ` Masami Hiramatsu
[not found] ` <20080723082856.334f9c17__2909.60763018138$1216827051$gmane$org@infradead.org>
2008-07-23 16:41 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 16:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-23 17:34 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-23 18:40 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-07-23 22:12 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-18 9:11 ` [RFC] systemtap: begin the process of using proper kernel APIs (part1: use kprobe symbol_name/offset instead of address) Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 9:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-18 10:31 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 10:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-18 10:52 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 13:02 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-18 13:07 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 13:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-18 13:28 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-18 13:35 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-18 13:21 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-18 13:37 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
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