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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
To: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@gmail.com>
Cc: Hidehiro Kawai <hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, sct@redhat.com, adilger@clusterfs.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	jack@suse.cz, jbacik@redhat.com, cmm@us.ibm.com, tytso@mit.edu,
	tglx@linutronix.de, yumiko.sugita.yf@hitachi.com,
	satoshi.oshima.fk@hitachi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ext3: add an option to control error handling on	file data
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:17:03 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080730211703.GZ3342@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <170fa0d20807300814o7741859eu8ad5d5b3b95e401c@mail.gmail.com>

On Jul 30, 2008  11:14 -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Hidehiro Kawai
> <hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com> wrote:
> > If the journal doesn't abort when it gets an IO error in file data
> > blocks, the file data corruption will spread silently.  Because
> > most of applications and commands do buffered writes without fsync(),
> > they don't notice the IO error.  It's scary for mission critical
> > systems.  On the other hand, if the journal aborts whenever it gets
> > an IO error in file data blocks, the system will easily become
> > inoperable.  So this patch introduces a filesystem option to
> > determine whether it aborts the journal or just call printk() when
> > it gets an IO error in file data.
> >
> > If you mount a ext3 fs with data_err=abort option, it aborts on file
> > data write error.  If you mount it with data_err=ignore, it doesn't
> > abort, just call printk().  data_err=abort is default, because
> > people have used this error handling policy for three years.
> 
> Thanks for making this configurable!
> 
> But given how surprised many of us were when we found out that
> jbd/ext3 has been aborting on file data blocks isn't this our chance
> to correct that long-standing oversight?  Shouldn't the default be
> data_err=ignore?  Or would changing this behavior cause more harm than
> good?
> 
> I don't feel strongly either way, having the "data_err" option makes
> this issue moot for me, but I figured I'd raise the question (in the
> interest of review).

Yes, good point.  I don't think any of the ext3 maintainers were aware
that the 3-years-old patch had introduced "abort on data error" behaviour.
The default for ext4 is only now going to errors=remount-ro from
errors=continue (as it is on ext2/3) so I think it is inconsistent to
have the journal abort on data errors when the filesystem itself does not.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-30 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-30  2:52 Hidehiro Kawai
2008-07-30  3:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] jbd: ordered data integrity fix Hidehiro Kawai
2008-07-30 15:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] ext3: add an option to control error handling on file data Mike Snitzer
2008-07-30 21:17   ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2008-07-31  6:03     ` Hidehiro Kawai
2008-08-05  6:07       ` [PATCH 1/2] ext3: add an option to control error handling on file data (another ver.) Hidehiro Kawai

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