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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: davids@webmaster.com
Cc: "Stefan Richter" <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 463 kernel developers missing!
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:32:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080730233229.5ebe4465@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKOEHCOJAC.davids@webmaster.com>

> Precisely. And others who wish to exercise rights under the GPL forfeit any
> legal mechanism (whether copyright, DMCA, contract, data privacy laws, or
> whatever theory) to impose "further restrictions" on those who wish to
> similarly use GPL works.

I don't know where you get that paticular idea from. Try sending GPL code
from the USA to Cuba. Seems the US government is using GPL code but
imposing further restrictions...

> have no control. But you cannot invoke copyright -- or any other law -- to
> restrict someone else's exercise of rights granter by the GPL. You get
> copyright, but you give up it all. No "further restrictions", period.

Some rights in laws are absolute. I cannot "give up" my right to be
identified as the author of a work I create in many countries. Its an
absolute.

> When you submit a unit to a GPL project, you place that unit under the GPL.
> That is what the DCoO is trying to say. There cannot be some things that
> some parts of the GPL apply to and some don't. There is no "sort of GPL,
> sort of not" that applies to some parts of some submissions. If something is
> part of or all of a submission made under the GPL, then all of the GPL
> applies to it.

The metadata licensing isn't clear in my view.

I think what you are more likely to get sensible results with is arguing
estoppel ? That was always the intent of that DCO wording. To ensure that
rights or otherwise you couldn't turn around and say "hey you published
my name and I didn't expect that implied by my actions".

However publishing a name and performing data processing on personal data
databases for other purposes is not the same thing at least in some
jurisdictions. In the EU you collect data "for a purpose".

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-30 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-28 14:45 Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 15:20 ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 15:35   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-28 15:45     ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 15:52       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-28 15:58         ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 16:12           ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 17:15       ` Christian Borntraeger
2008-07-28 17:25         ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-29  5:19       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-28 15:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-28 15:55   ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 16:20 ` Joe Perches
2008-07-28 16:47   ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 17:07     ` Stefan Richter
2008-07-28 16:54 ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-28 17:05   ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 17:10     ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-28 17:22       ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 17:58         ` Michael Krufky
2008-07-28 18:10           ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 18:11         ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-28 18:19           ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 18:34             ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-28 19:00               ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 20:22                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-28 20:38                   ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 20:46                   ` Dave Jones
2008-07-28 21:14                     ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-28 22:01                       ` James Morris
2008-07-28 23:41                         ` Paul Mundt
2008-07-29  0:14                           ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-29  0:29                             ` Rene Herman
2008-07-29  0:33                               ` Paul Mundt
2008-07-29  0:50                               ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-29 10:39                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-29 13:44                                   ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-29 14:22                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-29 14:27                                       ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-29 14:34                                         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-07-29 14:40                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-07-29 14:34                                     ` Rene Herman
2008-07-30  7:24                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-30  8:37                                     ` Stefan Richter
2008-07-30 12:46                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-30 12:54                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-07-30 15:32                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-30 16:32                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-07-30 16:56                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30 19:41                                               ` Rene Herman
2008-07-30 19:47                                                 ` Ray Lee
2008-07-30 20:00                                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-07-30 20:24                                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-30 20:27                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-30 20:38                                                     ` Stefan Richter
2008-07-30 17:05                                             ` Stefan Richter
2008-07-30 15:02                                         ` Stefan Richter
2008-07-30 15:04                                       ` David Schwartz
2008-07-30 14:53                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-07-30 15:23                                           ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-30 15:14                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-07-30 15:51                                               ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-30 15:44                                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-30 16:40                                               ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-30 16:49                                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-30 18:58                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-30 21:05                                                     ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-30 18:03                                           ` David Schwartz
2008-07-30 19:49                                             ` Stefan Richter
2008-07-30 22:25                                               ` David Schwartz
2008-07-30 22:32                                                 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2008-07-30 23:33                                                   ` David Schwartz
2008-07-31  4:20                                                     ` Kyle Moffett
2008-07-31  7:01                                                     ` Stefan Richter
2008-07-31 20:59                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-30 15:09                                         ` Stefan Richter
2008-07-30 15:08                                       ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-30 12:43                                     ` Rene Herman
2008-07-30 12:58                                       ` Paul Rolland
2008-07-30 13:05                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-07-30 17:53                                         ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-28 22:08                     ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 22:32                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-28 22:38                         ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-28 22:52                         ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-28 22:38                       ` Stefan Richter
2008-07-29  9:58                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-30  7:42                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-29  1:15                 ` Al Viro
2008-07-29  1:25                   ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-29  1:36                     ` Al Viro
2008-07-29  2:01                       ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-29  2:50                         ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-29  3:23                           ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-29  4:13                             ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-29  4:15                               ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-29  5:05                               ` Jon Smirl
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2008-07-30 11:41                     ` Bodo Eggert

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