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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
Cc: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel Summit request for Discussion of future of ATA (libata) and IDE
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:43:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080804224309.77ffd28e@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48977AE1.1070402@ru.mvista.com>

> > newer controllers support the 32bit PIO data cycles. Most PCI controllers
> > it makes no speed difference but host bus controllers (especially
> > PIIX/ICH) really benefit.
> >   
> 
>     In what way if there's no speed gain?

As in the numbers are the same before and after. The FIFO on the
controller is happily hiding the extra latencies I assume.

> >> supported. I couldn't track down where that bit was actually defined in 
> >> the first place, all the way back to ATA-1 it seems to be indicated as 
> >> reserved. Actually, I'm not sure why the drive cares in the first place, 
> >> it would seem like a pure host controller issue..
> >>     
> >
> > It goes back before IDE into the depths of the original compaq spec. When
> > you have a device wired basically directly to the ISA bus (original IDE)
> >   
> 
>    ISA has only 8/16-bit data bus, so it could not have mattered 
> there... 

Depends what a 32bit I/O looks like on the 16bit bus - timing wise.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-04 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.OGeO7gZvBG4obEzRbVltjSebgTQ@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.KtvYE2B2yrJqUleolhtMPN9ljAQ@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.AqEKTvguYFAzDFHy/We/8MpOqmo@ifi.uio.no>
2008-08-04 20:07     ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-04 19:55       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 21:17         ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-04 21:06           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 21:48             ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-06  0:21             ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-06  0:44               ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-06  2:30                 ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-06 11:27                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-06 13:04                   ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] " Tejun Heo
2008-08-06  8:51               ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 21:55         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-04 21:43           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2008-08-04 22:45             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-04 22:52               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-06 11:17                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-04 22:12         ` Mark Lord
2008-08-04 22:00           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 20:37       ` Jeff Garzik
2008-08-04 23:49         ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] " Tejun Heo
2008-08-03 15:57 James Bottomley
2008-08-03 16:39 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 17:10   ` James Bottomley
2008-08-03 18:45     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 19:21       ` James Bottomley
2008-08-03 19:17         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 20:19           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-08-03 22:07             ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 17:32   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-08-03 17:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-08-03 17:57       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-08-04  5:35   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-08-04 13:16   ` Kumar Gala
2008-08-04 13:07     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 20:09 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-08-03 22:01   ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 23:10 ` Jeff Garzik

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