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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] fastboot: Add a module parameter to skip probing of specific ports
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:02:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080812070222.3dc9efcb@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080812130027.2c4643a9@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:00:27 +0100
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> > > What
> > > defines the probe order here particularly as people are pushing
> > > for parallel probing of multiple devices.
> > 
> > the patches I'm pushing for this don't change probe order; that has
> > been tried before and wasn't a great success.
> 
> That was a question sorry. You are sledgehammering controllers by
> discovery sequence - you've no idea if they will always be found in
> that order. As such your boot option is incredibly fragile.

ok to answer your question;
today the probe order is consistent, at least on netbooks.
The admin or his installation program knows it when he has this (and if
linux were to grow full parallel probing it'll be optional, and if the
admin wants a fast boot he'll disable the parallel, reordering probe)
and can add the option for this case. It's the "push policy out of the
kernel" thing.. while the kernel probably can't know this (and you're
right, the DMI patch is thus the wrong thing to do).. the admin can.



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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-12 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-11 22:35 [patch 0/2] fastboot: allow skipping probing of known-unused ports in libata Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-11 22:36 ` [patch 1/2] fastboot: Add a module parameter to skip probing of specific ports Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-12  7:39   ` Alan Cox
2008-08-12 11:36     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-12 12:00       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-12 14:02         ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-08-12 14:21           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-11 22:37 ` [patch 2/2] fastboot: use a DMI match table to set defaults for port-disable Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-12  1:09   ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-12  5:04     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-12  8:10       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-12 11:37         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-12 11:58           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-20 22:46   ` Bjorn Helgaas

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