From: tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
capibara@xs4all.nl, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
davecb@sun.com, david@lang.hm,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
malware-list@lists.printk.net,
malware-list-bounces@dmesg.printk.net,
Mihai Don??u <mdontu@bitdefender.com>,
Peter Dolding <oiaohm@gmail.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
rmeijer@xs4all.nl
Subject: Re: [malware-list] scanner interface proposal was: [TALPA] Intro to a linux interface for on access scanning
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:31:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080818153212.6A6FD33687F@pmx1.sophos.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080818142511.GC8184@mit.edu>
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> wrote on 18/08/2008 15:25:11:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 02:15:24PM +0100, tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com
wrote:
> > Then there is still a question of who allows some binary to declare
itself
> > exempt. If that decision was a mistake, or it gets compromised
security
> > will be off. A very powerful mechanism which must not be easily
> > accessible. With a good cache your worries go away even without a
scheme
> > like this.
>
> I have one word for you --- bittorrent. If you are downloading a very
> large torrent (say approximately a gigabyte), and it contains many
> pdf's that are say a few megabytes a piece, and things are coming in
> tribbles, having either a indexing scanner or an AV scanner wake up
> and rescan the file from scratch each time a tiny piece of the pdf
> comes in is going to eat your machine alive....
Huh? I was never advocating re-scan after each modification and I even
explicitly said it does not make sense for AV not only for performance but
because it will be useless most of the time. I thought sending out
modified notification on close makes sense because it is a natural point,
unless someone is trying to subvert which is out of scope. Other have
suggested time delay and lumping up.
Also, just to double-check, you don't think AV scanning would read the
whole file on every write?
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[not found] <alpine.DEB.1.10.0808180444390.12859@asgard.lang.hm>
[not found] ` <20080818131628.1C2A22FE82F@pmx1.sophos.com>
2008-08-18 14:25 ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-18 15:31 ` tvrtko.ursulin [this message]
2008-08-18 15:31 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 13:42 ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-18 17:53 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 18:13 ` david
2008-08-18 15:58 ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-18 17:13 ` david
2008-08-18 16:15 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-18 16:15 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 16:54 ` douglas.leeder
2008-08-18 16:40 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 17:28 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-18 17:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 17:54 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-18 18:30 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-18 18:51 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 18:35 ` Jan Harkes
2008-08-18 18:46 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-18 19:04 ` david
2008-08-20 2:44 ` [malware-list] scanner interface proposal was: [TALPA] Intro linux interface for for " david
2008-08-20 15:15 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-20 17:33 ` david
2008-08-20 19:26 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-21 0:42 ` david
2008-08-20 17:50 ` david
2008-08-21 14:35 ` [malware-list] scanner interface proposal was: [TALPA] Intro linux interface " douglas.leeder
2008-08-21 21:19 ` david
2008-08-22 15:09 ` [malware-list] scanner interface proposal was: [TALPA] Intro linux interface for " Pavel Machek
2008-08-23 7:28 ` david
2008-08-18 19:32 ` [malware-list] scanner interface proposal was: [TALPA] Intro to a linux interface for on " Jan Harkes
2008-08-18 17:38 ` david
2008-08-18 17:29 ` david
2008-08-18 17:39 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-18 18:09 ` david
2008-08-18 18:34 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-18 17:07 ` david
2008-08-19 8:40 ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-18 22:40 ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-18 23:07 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-19 1:15 ` Peter Dolding
2008-08-19 8:09 ` douglas.leeder
2008-08-19 11:08 ` Peter Dolding
[not found] ` <20080819114040.2FD1B336880@pmx1.sophos.com>
2008-08-20 3:03 ` Peter Dolding
2008-08-18 16:28 ` douglas.leeder
[not found] <alpine.DEB.1.10.0808180951470.15109@asgard.lang.hm>
2008-08-19 8:31 ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-19 16:07 ` david
2008-08-19 12:34 ` David Collier-Brown
[not found] <20080818101625.85CA12FE876@pmx1.sophos.com>
2008-08-18 10:35 ` douglas.leeder
2008-08-18 12:13 ` david
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