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From: Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>
To: Daniel J Blueman <daniel.blueman@gmail.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Matthew <jackdachef@gmail.com>,
	Kasper Sandberg <lkml@metanurb.dk>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: performance "regression" in cfq compared to anticipatory, deadline and noop
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:06:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080825170641.GA4720@gandalf.sssup.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6278d2220808250839j1dc25c02uda7bf8b6b150acb7@mail.gmail.com>

> From: Daniel J Blueman <daniel.blueman@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Aug 25, 2008 04:39:01PM +0100
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> From: Daniel J Blueman <daniel.blueman@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2008 09:24:37PM +0100
> >>
> >> Hi Fabio, Jens,
> >>
> > ...
> >> This was the last test I didn't get around to. Alas, is did help, but
> >> didn't give the merging required for full performance:
> >>
> >> # echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches; dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null
> >> bs=128k count=2000
> >> 262144000 bytes (262 MB) copied, 2.47787 s, 106 MB/s
> >>
> >> # echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches; hdparm -t /dev/sda
> >> Timing buffered disk reads:  308 MB in  3.01 seconds = 102.46 MB/sec
> >>
> >> It is an improvement over the baseline performance of 2.6.27-rc4:
> >>
> >> # echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches; dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null
> >> bs=128k count=2000
> >> 262144000 bytes (262 MB) copied, 2.56514 s, 102 MB/s
> >>
> >> # echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches; hdparm -t /dev/sda
> >> Timing buffered disk reads:  294 MB in  3.02 seconds =  97.33 MB/sec
> >>
> >> Note that platter speed is around 125MB/s (which I get near at smaller
> >> read sizes).
> >>
> >> I feel 128KB read requests are perhaps important, as this is a
> >> commonly-used RAID stripe size, and may explain the read-performance
> >> drop sometimes we see in hardware vs software RAID benchmarks.
> >>
> >> How can we generate some ideas or movement on fixing/improving this behaviour?
> >>
> >
> > Thank you for testing.  The blktrace output for this run should be
> > interesting, esp. to compare it with a blktrace obtained from anticipatory
> > with the same workload - IIRC anticipatory didn't suffer from the problem,
> > and anticipatory has a slightly different dispatching mechanism that
> > this patch tried to bring into cfq.
> >
> > Even if a proper fix may not belong to the elevator itself, I think
> > that this couple (this last test + anticipatory) of traces should help
> > in better understanding what is still going wrong.
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> 
> See http://quora.org/blktrace-n.tar.bz2
> 
> Where n is:
>  0 - 2.6.27-rc4 unpatched
>  1 - 2.6.27-rc4 with your CFQ patch, CFQ scheduler
>  2 - 2.6.27-rc4 with your CFQ patch, anticipatory scheduler
>  3 - 2.6.27-rc4 with your CFQ patch, deadline scheduler
> 
> I have found it's not always possible to reproduce this issue, eg now,
> with stock CFQ, I'm seeing consistent 117-123MB/s with hdparm and dd
> (as above), whereas I was seeing a consistent 95-103MB/s, so the
> blktraces may not show the slower-performance pattern - even with
> precisely the same (controlled) environment.
> 

If I read them correctly, all the traces show dispatches with
requests still growing; the elevator cannot know if a request
will grow or not once it has been queued, and the heuristics
we tried so far to postpone dispatches gave no results.

I don't see any elevator-only solution to the problem...

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-25 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-11 13:14 Daniel J Blueman
2008-05-11 14:02 ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-13 12:20   ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-13 12:58     ` Matthew
2008-05-13 13:05       ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]         ` <e85b9d30805130842p3a34305l4ab1e7926e4b0dba@mail.gmail.com>
2008-05-13 18:03           ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-13 18:40             ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-13 19:23               ` Matthew
2008-05-13 19:30                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-14  8:05               ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-05-14  8:26                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-14 20:52                   ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-05-14 21:37                     ` Matthew
2008-05-15  7:01                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-15 12:21                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-05-16  6:40                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16  7:46                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-05-16  7:49                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16  7:57                                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16  8:53                                   ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-05-16  8:57                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16 15:23                                       ` Matthew
2008-05-16 18:39                                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-08-24 20:24                           ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-08-25 20:29                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-08-25 15:39                               ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-08-25 17:06                                 ` Fabio Checconi [this message]
2008-12-09 15:14                                   ` Daniel J Blueman
     [not found]                   ` <e85b9d30805140332r3311b2d6r6831d37421ced757@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <e85b9d30805140334q69cb5eacued9a719414e73d53@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20080514103956.GD16217@kernel.dk>
     [not found]                         ` <e85b9d30805141239g5df9abc6i666b1f621d632b44@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                           ` <e85b9d30805161549o7c8f065do24b6567e2ade0afa@mail.gmail.com>
2008-05-19 10:39                             ` Matthew
2008-05-13 13:51     ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-14  0:33       ` Kasper Sandberg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-10 19:18 Matthew
     [not found] ` <20080510200053.GA78555@gandalf.sssup.it>
2008-05-10 20:39   ` Matthew
2008-05-10 21:56     ` Fabio Checconi
2008-05-11  0:00     ` Aaron Carroll

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