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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] OSS Proxy using CUSE
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:21:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080829082129.GF16462@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48B7A48B.8020405@kernel.org>

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 09:26:03AM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>...
> >> Anyways, the thing is that unlike what was originally expected, dropping
> >> an major programming API doesn't really work too well even after six
> >> years of trying.
> > 
> > Good ALSA emulation was a hot topic a few years ago when popular 
> > software like Flash and Skype didn't support ALSA, but the use
> > cases are becoming rare.
> > 
> > 2 out of your 3 examples above were software where native ALSA works,
> > but your distributions seems to ship you a setup where you thought 
> > OSS emulation was required.
> 
> Yeah, that's why I agree it's a bit too late but still better late than
> never.  There are just some programs, be it commercial or ancient, which
> don't work quite as well as it could.  Requiring update to ALSA took
> painfully long years and we're still not in the clear yet.  Now should
> we ask people to update to PA?
>...

Doesn't PA already emulate ALSA?

> ossp is simply a better way to support /dev/dsp on modern systems and
> bulk of it lives in userland (and I hope this can be the case for future
> deprecations too).  If for nothing else, it'll enable us to do away with
> three different emulations at the very least.  I mean we can't of course
> do away with padsp and then some still only work with aoss and then we
> need in-kernel ALSA OSS emulation as the final fallback when both fail.
>  It's a big mess and ossp can basically OSS emulation as good as
> in-kernel ALSA OSS w/ muxing.

The in-kernel OSS emulation also support OSS MIDI.

> Thanks.
> tejun

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-29  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-28 19:05 Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 20:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-28 22:18   ` Greg KH
2008-08-28 23:05     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 23:14       ` Greg KH
2008-08-28 23:38         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 23:32           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-29  1:33   ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29  6:50     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-29  7:26       ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29  8:09         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-29  8:21         ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-08-29  8:28           ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-02 15:25   ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-27 20:59   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-11-28  2:23     ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-28 11:35       ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-11-28 12:02         ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-28 12:56           ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-08-29 10:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-08-29 10:47   ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-14  2:46 ` [ANNOUNCE] OSS Proxy 1.2 " Tejun Heo
2009-04-22 19:58   ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-22 23:59     ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-20  6:13       ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-20  6:37         ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-28 16:01   ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-28 16:42     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-28 17:17       ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-28 19:32         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-28 20:12           ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-28 21:34             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-29  7:13               ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-28 23:35             ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-29  7:20               ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-29  7:46                 ` Tejun Heo

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